Ha ha. You're really clutching at straws now.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dave_Mole
I'll let people here read the posts and decide for themselves.
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Ha ha. You're really clutching at straws now.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dave_Mole
I'll let people here read the posts and decide for themselves.
Good for you: you're so magnanimous.Quote:
Originally Posted by Muddy Retriever
It's all a massive left-wing conspiracy, anyway. Like er, Brexit? I think.
I imagine you'd take issue with this, as "calling for beheading" and saying their "heads should be put on stakes" are totally different things.....Quote:
Originally Posted by Muddy Retriever
https://www.newsweek.com/bannon-call...box=1604618739
Indeed Richard and isn't that the problem? For decades one group of scientists - the dishonest one's - became 'experts' at using statistics to 'prove' anything they wanted to. They were used to distort the picture in areas where cause and effect weren't clear cut. They were also used for political gain usually to give one group in society either money or some other political advantage extorted from another group.Quote:
Originally Posted by Witton Park
Then the other scientists cottoned on to the scam and instead of rejecting the methods embraced them and struck back. Two can play at that game they thought. So that is the situation and all one has to do is read back all the views on this Covid thread to realise that the above is true. One group on here all too happy to see people locked down supporting one set of figures, the other group who are more sympathetic to freedom supporting another.
Look back a few days. Teresa May stands up in parliament, Boris stands down. Or walks out because he hasn't got the decency to listen to the comments of a former PM. Which looks bad on him because what she had to say on the 4000 deaths scenario was potent. If she is right and she could figure it out then why are the chief scientists messing it up and stringing us along?
Maybe a good thing to come out of this Covid situation is people will become even more suspicious of scientists who present ever more complicated numbers to demonstrate a position. And perhaps that'll get us back to more reasoned thinking and explanations where statistics are secondary. Mike-T said on an earlier post that the problem was statistics were being used in the wrong way. But perhaps in some demonstrations they can't be used in the right way. Thanks
Statistics can be used to prove anything you want.
113% of people know that.
What a complete load of toshQuote:
Originally Posted by CL
The thing that amuses me is I'm supposed to be the Boris til I die bloke :DQuote:
Originally Posted by CL
I'm sure some on here are just saying what they are saying to be obtuse. I mean the defence of Whitty's Liverpool comment; it's remarkable.
If Whitty was answering in the way he explained, he needs to go back to school. Everyone bar Whitty (hence the criticism and the letter he's written) and a Mole know he was in an exchange about Liverpool.
Have a Like!Quote:
Originally Posted by Fellbeast
One thing I have learnt in life is that everyone can be wrong or manipulative to their point of view.
Just because someone is Dr xxxx or a scientist or expert, or published peer reviewed papers, does not mean they are 100% correct 100% of the time, all the time.
What was gospel yesterday may be way off beam tomorrow.
So, what do we all think about covid mutations in mink potentially throwing a spanner in the works?
He was bang on about Theresa May and I can’t t believe I’m saying that after what I thought about her this time last year. I’ve watched her four minute speech in the Commons and agreed with nearly every word. She said that the figures were being produced to support the policy, rather than policy being based on the figures. Ain’t that the truth.Quote:
Originally Posted by Fellbeast
Just for clarity: was it like a load of tosh or an actual load of tosh? Some people on here struggle to tell the difference.Quote:
Originally Posted by MattPo
Let's hope it's the faux sort !:DQuote:
Originally Posted by molehill
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have a like!Quote:
Originally Posted by Muddy Retriever
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I thought he meant something else!Quote:
Originally Posted by Mossdog
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Mink have thrown spanners in many works even without covid!Quote:
Originally Posted by molehill
Too true, American invaders along with grey squirrels, signal crayfish and, errrr Americans?Quote:
Originally Posted by Llani Boy
"Nothing has changed - nothing has changed" - when it clearly had. That doesn't mean any particular statement she makes is wrong of course. As to figures coming after policies, isn't that what politicians do all the time?Quote:
Originally Posted by Muddy Retriever
Strangely for me I’ve even started agreeing with things Tony Blair has been saying recently.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mike T
https://www.broadgreeninternationals...dfile/15622636
Scousers with barcodes. Should be able track them up and down the East Lancs road in the middle of the night and might lead to reduced car crime :p
Blair, Brown, May, and at a lower level, Hunt - all seem to make much more sense when they are no longer in power.Quote:
Originally Posted by Muddy Retriever
Go and have a lie down :DQuote:
Originally Posted by Muddy Retriever
You'll like this one Muddy - Sky's Ed Conway has recently found his marbles.
Particularly in view of exchanges on here regarding the Vallance graph from September half way down the thread.
https://twitter.com/EdConwaySky/stat...19551335403520
I know, I know, sorry.Quote:
Originally Posted by Witton Park
Yes I read that thread of Ed Conway's last night. He is very good, I regularly follow what he is saying. I imagine you may have already seen this video he posted a few days ago covering similar ground.
https://twitter.com/EdConwaySky/stat...67801341612033
The Ed Conway stuff on twitter is brilliant. I don’t think that telling people the truth is in the Boris/Dominic playbook though....
Just a shame they keep putting Beth Rugby up for the press conferencesQuote:
Originally Posted by Fellbeast
Can't believe how busy Otley Chevin was today. The bad parkers were out in force breaching lockdown.
There's a lot of truth in that. Perhaps one day we will say the same about the soon to be ex-POTUS?Quote:
Originally Posted by Mike T
I went for a run around Harewood and the lay-by off Harrogate Road was more rammed than I’ve ever seen it, stretched half way to Wyke. I imagine many people who might have been Christmas shopping but for lockdown decided to go there instead.Quote:
Originally Posted by mr brightside
All round Leeds was rammed. Huge parking issues on the Chevin, We decided to avoid Harewood due to the crowds and went to Little Almscliffe - only just managed to find a sensible parking spot. Still I suppose they (the great unwashed) are out in the outdoors and have every right to be. Luckily there are loads of places they don't know aboutQuote:
Originally Posted by Muddy Retriever
Never in a million years. Trump was pure evilQuote:
Originally Posted by gej
Well yes... but you as an intelligent man who needs to be informed about investments etc will also know that financial commentators generally have consistently recognised that, however obnoxious he is as a human being, he has done a lot of good for the US economy.Quote:
Originally Posted by Fellbeast
And as the great man says; "money doesn't talk, it swears".
Most of which was already put in place by Obama.....Quote:
Originally Posted by Graham Breeze
Yes very true. Of my 10 mile run, (with one allowed friend) only 3 miles was within the Harewood Estate itself, which was very busy. The other 7 miles on the Leeds Country Way to East Keswick and then along the Wharfe was very quiet.Quote:
Originally Posted by MattPo
No. Not at all. It was Trump who simplified tax systems, cut back on red tape and rebooted enterprise.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dave_Mole
Much of which we could do with in the UK.
As the DT says "what the world needs right now is Trumpism, but without Trump."
One person's red tape is anothers employment and environmental protection..
Sorry Graham but f*** that. Justifying such a complete monster because he was good for Wall Street is no argument. Any twat can throw money at business and cut regulations but that doesn’t mean that it’s good for society. Even if a few investors do okay out of itQuote:
Originally Posted by Graham Breeze
Now now. In your excitement don't confuse the message with the messenger. I was not justifying anything.Quote:
Originally Posted by Fellbeast
I was accurately noting that in recent weeks with the prospect of a Biden victory becoming more likely the financial pages have generally expressed concerns, in terms of the UK, about the economic downside of a Biden victory, particularly post-Brexit.
That's what financial commentators are paid to do - commentate on financial matters, not societal issues.
I've been to the USA at least a dozen times on business and pleasure but I've never been offered a vote - although Biden didn't seem to need it.:)
"Today is a good day.
It’s easier to be a parent this morning.
Character MATTERS.
Being a good person MATTERS.
This is a big deal.
It’s easy to do it the cheap way and get away with stuff — but it comes back around.
Today is a good day."
Van Jones.
I'm with you Graham.
Give me the choice between a genial, nice guy, great uncle type character who seems to be suffering from early onset dementia and a flawed, rude, narcissistic, cantankerous oaf who can manage the economy competently and I'll take the oaf and put up with his behaviour.
I'd credit Trump with making progress with North Korea, the Middle East and he's also standing up to China - the first Western leader to do that.
He's also stood up for his own country about the imbalance in trade arrangements between EU and US.
Meanwhile even though he withdrew the US from the Paris agreement, the US has continued to reduce CO2 emissions faster than the EU.
and on the figures I saw a couple of days ago, Trump increased his vote except with White Males, so I'm not sure how representative he is.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mike T
How would people have reacted if Rachel Riley had have come out with a similar reaction after Corbyn was defeated in Dec 19?
anyway, this is Covid - we should get back to that and start a new thread if you want to talk about the US election.
Haha there’s a surpriseQuote:
Originally Posted by Witton Park