Ha ha. You're really clutching at straws now.Originally Posted by Dave_Mole
I'll let people here read the posts and decide for themselves.
Ha ha. You're really clutching at straws now.
I'll let people here read the posts and decide for themselves.
Good for you: you're so magnanimous.
It's all a massive left-wing conspiracy, anyway. Like er, Brexit? I think.
I imagine you'd take issue with this, as "calling for beheading" and saying their "heads should be put on stakes" are totally different things.....
https://www.newsweek.com/bannon-call...box=1604618739
Indeed Richard and isn't that the problem? For decades one group of scientists - the dishonest one's - became 'experts' at using statistics to 'prove' anything they wanted to. They were used to distort the picture in areas where cause and effect weren't clear cut. They were also used for political gain usually to give one group in society either money or some other political advantage extorted from another group.
Then the other scientists cottoned on to the scam and instead of rejecting the methods embraced them and struck back. Two can play at that game they thought. So that is the situation and all one has to do is read back all the views on this Covid thread to realise that the above is true. One group on here all too happy to see people locked down supporting one set of figures, the other group who are more sympathetic to freedom supporting another.
Look back a few days. Teresa May stands up in parliament, Boris stands down. Or walks out because he hasn't got the decency to listen to the comments of a former PM. Which looks bad on him because what she had to say on the 4000 deaths scenario was potent. If she is right and she could figure it out then why are the chief scientists messing it up and stringing us along?
Maybe a good thing to come out of this Covid situation is people will become even more suspicious of scientists who present ever more complicated numbers to demonstrate a position. And perhaps that'll get us back to more reasoned thinking and explanations where statistics are secondary. Mike-T said on an earlier post that the problem was statistics were being used in the wrong way. But perhaps in some demonstrations they can't be used in the right way. Thanks
Last edited by CL; 06-11-2020 at 08:38 PM.
Statistics can be used to prove anything you want.
113% of people know that.
What a complete load of tosh
The thing that amuses me is I'm supposed to be the Boris til I die bloke
I'm sure some on here are just saying what they are saying to be obtuse. I mean the defence of Whitty's Liverpool comment; it's remarkable.
If Whitty was answering in the way he explained, he needs to go back to school. Everyone bar Whitty (hence the criticism and the letter he's written) and a Mole know he was in an exchange about Liverpool.
Richard Taylor
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One thing I have learnt in life is that everyone can be wrong or manipulative to their point of view.
Just because someone is Dr xxxx or a scientist or expert, or published peer reviewed papers, does not mean they are 100% correct 100% of the time, all the time.
What was gospel yesterday may be way off beam tomorrow.
So, what do we all think about covid mutations in mink potentially throwing a spanner in the works?
He was bang on about Theresa May and I can’t t believe I’m saying that after what I thought about her this time last year. I’ve watched her four minute speech in the Commons and agreed with nearly every word. She said that the figures were being produced to support the policy, rather than policy being based on the figures. Ain’t that the truth.
