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Originally Posted by merrylegs

Be nice to see you en-route mate, but won't be accepting any food...i'm fat enough:D
Abuse and insulting comments about my girth would be most welcome though;)

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Not much chance of me insulting you merry - we might share hair styles but I'm considerably lardier than you ;)

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Originally Posted by Derby Tup

Not much chance of me insulting you merry - we might share hair styles but I'm considerably lardier than you ;)

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Ok, who's got the shiniest head insults will do, didn't realise you were fattist:D

Okay my preparation for this couldn't have been more last minute - I had to buy an OMM back pack, a plastic mug and a spork yesterday and have now sat down trying to plot my route (or possible route) between checkpoints.

The first obvious gap in my knowledge is the line off of Whernside to Yorda's Cave. I know the stile to hop over, a couple of hundred metres down from Whernside trig, which puts me into a large open fell side - I suspect there's no advantage in aiming a true diagonal to Yorda's, which would probably require hopping a wall, but is it best to hack in a line for the farm at Kingsdale Head and then follow the road or to just go straight down due east to the road? Its obviously not that important but I must put my dotted line on the map properly :rolleyes:

I'm okay on the line down into Dent and intend to follow the same line to Flinter Gill off of Great Coum that I did at last years Whernside fell race. I'm okay to Blea Moor too I think, following the track that skirts the north end of the Whernside ridge, but presumably hacking off in a straightish line south west for Blea Moor when the track turns south? After that to be honest the map doesn't look too bad with obvious or as the crow flies hops, looking okay to wing on the day, between fairly closely grouped checkpoints.

But is there anywhere else I need to worry about on the navigational front?

Sorry I've just noticed the section in the manual "points to observe on the route" which gives me all sorts of navigational instructions!

99% of the navigational prlblems will come after Fleet Moss - looks straightforward on the map but unless you are quick you will find yourself on open fell in the dark - thats when GPS can help !
Unless you are well in front there should be few problems navigating the bits before Dent as there will always be someone around you.

OK i have got my route plotted and it shows 59.6 miles and 11500ft of asent is that sounding about right?.

This weeks forecast makes it look like Fleet moss could be heavy going:D

See you at the weekend folks.

JohnK

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Originally Posted by JohnK

OK i have got my route plotted and it shows 59.6 miles and 11500ft of asent is that sounding about right?.

This weeks forecast makes it look like Fleet moss could be heavy going:D

See you at the weekend folks.

JohnK

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Hoping to get across Fleet Moss and Middle Tongue (which I found even worse last time) before dark. Fingers crossed for nice weather Saturday !

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Originally Posted by Anorak

Fingers crossed for nice weather Saturday !

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And toes:D

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Originally Posted by merrylegs

And toes:D

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How long are your toes?:eek:

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Originally Posted by Pilgrim

How long are your toes?:eek:

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Not as long as the route:eek::D

Weather forecast for this week in Settle:

Today ---> Heavy rain
Wednesday ---> Heavy rain
Thursday ---> Sunny intervals
Friday ---> Light rain
Saturday ---> Light rain with a max temperature of 11 degrees

Continuing my make it up as I go along organisation for this, any chance of cadging a lift with someone from Threshfield to Ingleton on Saturday morning? I don't mind getting there at the crack of dawn.

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Originally Posted by Stolly

Weather forecast for this week in Settle:

Today ---> Heavy rain
Wednesday ---> Heavy rain
Thursday ---> Sunny intervals
Friday ---> Light rain
Saturday ---> Light rain with a max temperature of 11 degrees

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Fleetmoss---> boggy Blub blub:eek:

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Originally Posted by Stolly

Continuing my make it up as I go along organisation for this, any chance of cadging a lift with someone from Threshfield to Ingleton on Saturday morning? I don't mind getting there at the crack of dawn.

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Would if i could Stolly, but got 6 in the car already:(

planning route and i cant find hell gap on map, or at least its name, is this right, what ive got is a point NE of west fell above stake moss, does this seem right? dave

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Originally Posted by egor

planning route and i cant find hell gap on map, or at least its name, is this right, what ive got is a point NE of west fell above stake moss, does this seem right? dave

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Hi dave that's it.

Follow fence line from Yockenthwaite (very boggy and tough under foot. get past here by dark if possible) to South grain tarn over fence as it turns North I seem to remember. and follow bearing as you go over the first rise you should see flashing beacons leading you all the way. take a bearing as they disapear from time to time. CP on the track which you then just follow all the way down to Hellgap proper and the next CP at Cray and hopefully grouping.

This is the last tough climb.

good luck

cheers again ian for info, hopefully it go ok, starting to get nervous if i think about it, thought something like 3 p's or edale looked daunting

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Originally Posted by egor

cheers again ian for info, hopefully it go ok, starting to get nervous if i think about it, thought something like 3 p's or edale looked daunting

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think slow and steady for first 20 miles and concentrate on cp to cp the finish will appear eventually;)

I've had a bit of a panic. Studied the instructions last night and read that printed maps wouldn't do (I got away with them last year). Found the requisite maps in the third and last shop. All a bit pointless in time and expense as I'll only use my printed ones anyway. But rules are rules, even if arbitrary, I s'pose.

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Originally Posted by egor

cheers again ian for info, hopefully it go ok, starting to get nervous if i think about it, thought something like 3 p's or edale looked daunting

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Hey don't worry you'll be fine, just do as Ian says take it steady, keep moving and keep eating and drinking.;)

From the Fellsman web page

Plea for help...

Well, only a few days to go. There are a few places (<20) still available so get those entry forms in if you want a secure place as any remaining places on the Saturday will be on a strict first-come first-serve basis. I will be posting some information tonight regarding kit check, buses, opening and closing times for check-in and reminders of the ever unpopular grouping rule which the committee takes VERY seriously!

In the meantime I've had a plea for help from an entrant based in Harrogate who is looking for a car share from Threshfield to Harrogate on the Sunday due to the very poor public transport on Sundays. He can also offer a lift from Harrogate to the start on the Saturday morning. If anybody feels that they can help please contact me via the Contact page and I'll put you in touch.

Thanks and watch this space.

fleetmoss looked quite dry yesterday, let's hope it doesn't rain too much between now and then!
don't mind the forecast, got to be better than roast and burn of last year.
entry no 28, see you there.

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Originally Posted by Donkarlo

keep eating and drinking.;)

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Thats what got me round in the past - I ate even when I didn't feel like it late on !

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Originally Posted by egor

cheers again ian for info, hopefully it go ok, starting to get nervous if i think about it, thought something like 3 p's or edale looked daunting

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Know how you feel mate, i've had nerves the last few days cos i've been full of cold, don't psyche yourself out though, mate of mine offered this advice "Just relax and enjoy the day";)
Listen to eveyone else on here that's done it and good luck:cool:

I'm worried about my 'Large See-through Polythene Bag' that I must put my mandatory kit in. Will it be large enough? will it be see-through enough?

Is anybody kipping at the school on Friday or are we all going up at silly O'Clock on Saturday?

I tried to convert my Ford Fiesta to a camper van last night, hoping that I could sleep in it as a contingency. T'would be uncomfortable to say the least.

Yeah I too am having some 'what the donald duck am I doing this for' moments this week. But death before dishonour! ;)

Personally I'd go for dishonour everytime.

large see through poly bag, didnt realise it had to be see through??

nerves def here, lost sleep last night worrying about it, why oh why, im sure there must be a nice flat 10k race somewhere i can run instead!

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Originally Posted by egor

large see through poly bag, didnt realise it had to be see through??

nerves def here, lost sleep last night worrying about it, why oh why, im sure there must be a nice flat 10k race somewhere i can run instead!

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Looking at last years rules and it doesn't say the bag has to be clear. Think I used a black bin bag. :confused:

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Originally Posted by Pilgrim

Looking at last years rules and it doesn't say the bag has to be clear. Think I used a black bin bag. :confused:

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Right i'm going to start a torch debate (probably with myself).

Rules state it can't be single led type. Diameter of lens can't be less than 30mm. So this rules out my petzl myo. I've got a Hope 2 led torch but no spare rechargeable Lion battery for it. It'll last 30 hours on full charge. But rules state spare batteries must be carried. Oh it's 50quid for a spare and i don't want to pay that. How strict are they on all of this?

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Originally Posted by Bobert

Right i'm going to start a torch debate (probably with myself).

Rules state it can't be single led type. Diameter of lens can't be less than 30mm. So this rules out my petzl myo. I've got a Hope 2 led torch but no spare rechargeable Lion battery for it. It'll last 30 hours on full charge. But rules state spare batteries must be carried. Oh it's 50quid for a spare and i don't want to pay that. How strict are they on all of this?

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They changed it last year. You can use a single LED headtorch (I used an L1). They've not updated the rulebook. As for the Hope 2 with a 30 hour charge - suggest you query that with the organiser.

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Originally Posted by Pilgrim

They changed it last year. You can use a single LED headtorch (I used an L1). They've not updated the rulebook. As for the Hope 2 with a 30 hour charge - suggest you query that with the organiser.

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Thanks Pilgrim. I'm starting to panick about everything, it's ridiculous. Initial signs of stress. :D:eek::D

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Originally Posted by egor

large see through poly bag, didnt realise it had to be see through??

nerves def here, lost sleep last night worrying about it, why oh why, im sure there must be a nice flat 10k race somewhere i can run instead!

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Well sod the poly bag rule, I'm throwing caution to the wind and using a proper rucksack inner waterproof bag jobby instead. So sue me!

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Originally Posted by Bobert

Right i'm going to start a torch debate (probably with myself).

Rules state it can't be single led type. Diameter of lens can't be less than 30mm. So this rules out my petzl myo. I've got a Hope 2 led torch but no spare rechargeable Lion battery for it. It'll last 30 hours on full charge. But rules state spare batteries must be carried. Oh it's 50quid for a spare and i don't want to pay that. How strict are they on all of this?

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Take any old battery (live or dead) that looks like it might fit the bill. They're hardly likely to ask you prove that it works.

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Originally Posted by swimmingdunce

Take any old battery (live or dead) that looks like it might fit the bill. They're hardly likely to ask you prove that it works.

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Liking your style! ;)

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Originally Posted by Stolly

Well sod the poly bag rule, I'm throwing caution to the wind and using a proper rucksack inner waterproof bag jobby instead. So sue me!

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If they still insist on an ornage bivvy bag why not fold it over at the bottom and use that as your liner?

Don't worry too much about the torch I am sure they accepted myo's in the past think if you go back on this thread you will find evidence.

It will be fine, the rules are a guidance I am sure the bag doesn't have to be clear I've always just used a bin liner.:) Don't panic its fine you will enjoy it and soon relax into the Fellsman pace when you are on the move.;)

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Originally Posted by Donkarlo

Don't worry too much about the torch I am sure they accepted myo's in the past think if you go back on this thread you will find evidence.

It will be fine, the rules are a guidance I am sure the bag doesn't have to be clear I've always just used a bin liner.:) Don't panic its fine you will enjoy it and soon relax into the Fellsman pace when you are on the move.;)

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I find the whole kit check thing very stressful. One would always like to think that the officials will apply common sense, but there's always the nagging worry that you could get disqualified on the start line. :(

The actual race itself doesn't cause me any worries (apart the fear of being grouped - I must, must must get to Park Rash by 7.30 :eek:)

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Originally Posted by swimmingdunce

I must, must must get to Park Rash by 7.30 :eek:)

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You planning on being in the top 3 then?

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Originally Posted by Pilgrim

You planning on being in the top 3 then?

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I wasn't benig serious. If I was having a good day, I might be there by 10. But there's no harm in dreaming about being able to run the whole cousrse solo;)