I think it's just a case of not turning up. You could sub within a club at one time but I'm not sure about that, deadline has probably past now.Quote:
Originally Posted by that_fjell_guy
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I think it's just a case of not turning up. You could sub within a club at one time but I'm not sure about that, deadline has probably past now.Quote:
Originally Posted by that_fjell_guy
Im gona have to withdraw also backs not improving :thunbdown: expensive business this pre entry when you break down injured, ordered a t shirt too don't want that a reminder of my missed ppp's race :thunbdown:
I ordered a t-shirt too. I rather think, if they're the same as last years that they aren't dated as such therefore I'll request mine is posted. Although I was considering going down and taking some pics, so I may pick it up in person. They're quite a nice design I think, and the only other time I ordered one I never recieved it / forgot to pick it up!!
Nerves are shot! How do I get rid of these nerves nerves nerves! Aaaahhhhh!!! :mad:
That's the trouble with these 'short and fast' fell races Louise ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by Mountain Goatess
You should do what I'm doing and just put your head in the sand ostrich style. I was going to reply to your post earlier but I found myself feeling jittery so I went out for a run to take my mind off of it :) I'm not going to think about it properly until Friday teatime (when the shops are still open for me to get my drinks).:rolleyes:
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Originally Posted by Mountain Goatess
Ha ha...there is an element of truth in that! Deciding to do the Three Peaks after last year's Fellsman initially felt like the easy option but its also the fast one...probably won't think that as I'm crawling up Whernside :thumbup: Anyway, I don't want to think about it at all so I'm off to do some work, fingers in ears, la la la la la la la
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Originally Posted by Stolly
Ha ha nice to know I'm not alone! la la la la la!
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Originally Posted by Hes
Ha ha yes I do prefer the feeling of having an 11 hour cut off time! :thumbup:
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How about some last minute training to calm those nerves ?
Leg 3 Bob Graham out and back tomorrow if anyone fancies it.
MG - my nerves are doubly shot - have a job interview in the morning & then the countdown to Saturday - even though I've ran it a few times now.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mountain Goatess
See you on the start line :)
Hows the legs Manhar ? Injury cleared up ?Quote:
Originally Posted by Manhar
A pint of guinness will sort you out :)
See you all on Saturday - we could make a TDF style bus :)
See if they'd DQ 200 of us :)
Oooh see you on the start line fella....it's been a while! Good luck tomorrow too! :thumbup:Quote:
Originally Posted by Manhar
I'm currently scoffing a cream filled blueberry muffin to take my mind off things! :w00t:
Need to decide on rucksack or bumbag. I'd normally wear my bumbag for this but as I've been training with rucksack for the L50 this year, perhaps I should stick to that. Besides I can fit more food in it too! :p
Rucksack for me. Tried it at Trollers Trot & it was much better than cramming everything in to a bumbag !
I was wondering about that too. I am inclined to agree with you and Jez. I ran with a bumbag the time I did the race but it was perfect conditions whereas pretty much every time I've run the route since and for every long run this winter I've used a backpack. Doesn't bump up and down and I'm more likely to take my really good all weather gear rather than opting for lightweight gloves/hat because they are all that will fit when crammed in my bumbag with my waterproofs.
Bit annoying for getting drinks out though. Might bring both and decide on the day.
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You're not planning on using your socks for gloves then?!!! :wink:
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Good luck with both events Manhar. I am a bit jealous of you 3 peakers now. I have nothing to do this weekend so I might go up to Horton and spectate on the day :DQuote:
Originally Posted by Manhar
Alf, I saw somewhere that there's places going in The Fellsman....you can just turn up on the day and enter :thumbup:
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Alf suddenly remembers that sore knee he had after the TWA last week :rolleyes::oQuote:
Originally Posted by Mountain Goatess
Looking forward to having a jog round on Saturday.
Should be a good crack!
*positive thoughts*
Excited and nervous all at once, I used a rucksac last year but have been training with a bumbag and will have drinks deposited at the two drop offs.
Err maybe more nervous thinking about, still hopefully it wont be as cold as when we ran it in Dec (pics in the FRA mag) ....
The old shoe choice is NO clearer looking at this forecast and one or two photos of the peaks this week it's going to be a dry one.
http://www.metoffice.gov.uk/public/w...t#?tab=fiveDay
I have entered for the first time so have that mixture of nerves and excitement plus I sometimes wonder what I have signed up for - looking forward to it and weather forecast looks promising. Have all the kit laid out on the spare bed and still toying with which shoes to wear - Speedcross or Roclite 315's. Still trying to work out how to pace it but I think the key for me is not to go out too fast - aiming for a 4hour 15 finish which I hope is achievable - have the added pressure of the family spectating.
SS go to the sport ident site and look up last years splits for a runner doing 4.15. pick those with a slower start and try to follow them. The route I think is faster now due to the new path but don't get carried away at the start. You can run hard or easy up pyg but it will make 2-3 difference there but will cost you dear later on if you over cook it.Quote:
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Originally Posted by IanDarkpeak
Don't pay any heed to the route card on the PPP website, I don't think it's based on past results at all, I suspect they've just divided the distance by the time to come up with some figures.
Definitely don't get excited going up PYG, you will pay for it when you try and get up Ingleborough.
How much food are you planning on taking?!Quote:
Originally Posted by Mountain Goatess
5 snack size mars bars for me; one at each drinks station + a spare.
Carrying water is just dead weight; forecast is for 9 deg + light wind so, as long as you're in vest and shorts, you shouldn't need much water. I try and drink two cups full at each water station, seems to do ok.
Yep agreed with IanDP and AA. I live local and run around various versions of the 3P route several times a year and, if you're looking for a 4:15 finish, I suggest something along the lines of
PyG top: 0 hrs 40 mins
Cattle grid/main road to Ribblehead: 1 hrs 35 mins
Whernside top: 2 hrs 25 mins
Chapel le Dale: 2 hrs 50 mins
Ingleborough top: 3 hrs 30 mins
Finish: 4 hrs 15 mins
That timing requires fairly good climbing legs on Whernside and running all of the slabbed path to the wall of Ingleborough; if you struggle on climbs, you'll need to run the downhill and/or flat bits quicker :)
My first time too! Training was going well until 4 weeks ago, injury, illness and kitchen fitting have decimated it!!! Just looking to get around inside the cut offs. Left it too late for shoe choices so its going to be mudclaws for me (road shoes is only other option). Pre race nerves not really kicked in but the self doubt is going to be heavy to carry around!! Man up on the day and hope to get around!!!
Thanks for all the advice it is much appreciated I'll take note of those times Stolly plus also have a look at the splits of a few runners - only problem then would be to try and spot them at the start of the race!!!- I have got the feeling that people do go off like loons then pay for it later - I know I have been one of them in the past but on shorter races. I always find it mentally sapping when you might have overcooked it at the start then there are a constant stream of runners coming past you that you can do nothing about. I will be a happy man when I come in to the finish field again.
Looking forward to this but very apprehensive as I've only just got back from injury. Was hoping for under 4 hours but will be happy to get round now.
Will be in a white vest with 'Mossley Hill AC' on the back if anyone wants to get a 4-4:15 peleton going, planning to start easy up pyg then run the flats hard.
Good advice from Ian and Stolly. I've only run the race once before but would definitely agree about not overcooking it going up PyG.
I tend to set off too fast no matter what race I do but luckily I managed to settle into a reasonable pace which I pretty much kept up all the way. Held a little bit back for Ingleborough but then pushed it all the way home. I looked at my splits and from Whernside I moved up position by 144 people so it worked for me as a middle pack runner. I would like to beat my time (4.30) and think I could push it a bit more this time. When I did the race I had only recced it once and wasn't used to longer distances so I played it a bit safe but that was two years ago and I've been round the route loads of time since in all conditions plus I've done a lot more long distance stuff. I guess it will be about judging where to push myself a bit more but ultimately I want to enjoy it so I'll try not to get stressed about it and just do the best I can. Anything could happen on the day and I'm not an elite runner or serious racer so it doesn't matter really.
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Originally Posted by ShrewsburyShuffler
My last 3 years have been: 2010-4.30, 2011-3.59 & 2012-3.54. So anywhere around the 4 hour mark for me, over or under. Like Hes says, I'm out to enjoy the day & lap up the atmosphere when running the last 100 yards !
Good times, well done! That last 100 yards is great. I ran in with two runners and one of them said we should try a sprint finish and break the 4.30 mark. We didn't manage it but we finished laughing our heads off.
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You must be one of the few who finishes laughing Hes ! Good luck breaking 4.30.
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Why, after a whole winter of good health, do I now sense the beginnings of a stinker of a cold? Bugger.
Thanks for all the pointers folks. My first time doing it and my only concern is that I always go off too quickly...
As the actress said to the bishop........................
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Originally Posted by Howgill Tarrier
I'm hoping for around 4:15 but anyone wanting a 4:15 time don't follow me, I ALWAYS set off too quick in races and I have no doubt I'll do the same again. I expect to be top 100 at the top of the first climb and spend the rest of the race drifting back through the field.
I'll be the one in hat and gloves. Vest and shorts ? No chance !