post brexit

[Muddy Retriever]

Setback this morning. MPs set to get a vote.

There'll be an appeal, but if that fails they court always take it to the European Court :-)

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-37857785

If I was Theresa May I would call a general election now. I was against the idea when she became PM in the summer but since many MP's will use this ruling to try and thwart the will of the electorate it seems like the only option. If the polls are to be believed the likely result would be a Tory landslide and many more pro Brexit MP's.

[Mike T]

If I was Theresa May I would call a general election now. I was against the idea when she became PM in the summer but since many MP's will use this ruling to try and thwart the will of the electorate it seems like the only option. If the polls are to be believed the likely result would be a Tory landslide and many more pro Brexit MP's.

Whenever the next election is, assuming Corbyn is still the Labour boss, the Tories will win in a landslide - so the longer the Tories delay this the better, from their point of view. Given that the majority of MPs are against Brexit, and the electorate has no idea what it has voted for, any chance of rescuing the situation should be taken. This seems as good a way out as any.

[Muddy Retriever]

Whenever the next election is, assuming Corbyn is still the Labour boss, the Tories will win in a landslide - so the longer the Tories delay this the better, from their point of view. Given that the majority of MPs are against Brexit, and the electorate has no idea what it has voted for, any chance of rescuing the situation should be taken. This seems as good a way out as any.

Absolutely, stuff democracy. Look what happens when you let the little people have their say.

They used to use this argument in the 19th century as the reason for not extending the franchise.

[Mike T]

Absolutely, stuff democracy. Look what happens when you let the little people have their say.

They used to use this argument in the 19th century as the reason for not extending the franchise.

The trouble is, as Asimov said:

"The strain of anti-intellectualism has been a constant thread winding its way through our political and cultural life, nurtured by the false notion that democracy means that 'my ignorance is just as good as your knowledge.”

And who is an expert on Brexit? - exactly nobody.

[Muddy Retriever]

The trouble is, as Asimov said:

"The strain of anti-intellectualism has been a constant thread winding its way through our political and cultural life, nurtured by the false notion that democracy means that 'my ignorance is just as good as your knowledge.”

And who is an expert on Brexit? - exactly nobody.

People have varying degrees of knowledge and understanding on both sides of the argument. I know a number of people who voted to remain and had no clear concept of why. But if Remain had won I would have accepted the decision. That's democracy, get over it. It may have its weaknesses but the alternative is far worse.

[Hobbsy]

People have varying degrees of knowledge and understanding on both sides of the argument. I know a number of people who voted to leave and had no clear concept of why. But if Leave had won I would have accepted the decision. That's democracy, get over it. It may have its weaknesses but the alternative is far worse.

I thought Leave did win? Or have I missed something whilst I've been asleep....?!

[Muddy Retriever]

I thought Leave did win? Or have I missed something whilst I've been asleep....?!

Doh! I'll change it.

[luxinterior]

Doh! I'll change it.

People who voted leave will not get what they want when they voted and instead we are all heading into an economic mess.

Great job..................

[Mike T]

People have varying degrees of knowledge and understanding on both sides of the argument. I know a number of people who voted to remain and had no clear concept of why. But if Remain had won I would have accepted the decision. That's democracy, get over it. It may have its weaknesses but the alternative is far worse.

But sometimes people are put in an impossible position because they are asked a question that they shouldn't be asked. Should we put Childhood Vaccinations to the electorate in a referendum? Of course not. Brexit is the same, except there are no experts, and too many unknowns. MPs represent us, they have access to expertise, extremely limited as it is on this subject - they should vote on our behalf.

[Derby Tup]

"We" made a terrible mess of the vote (in fairness we were lied to about all kind of factors in the run up to the referendum). Hopefully the MP's will get it right and put an end to this wretched position