Quote Originally Posted by IanDarkpeak View Post
If any one is interested there are a couple of 'runs' around Kinder. One is the Kinder Dozen 24 miles 10,000 ft and includes a circuit of Kinder with you guessed it 12 ascents and descents. A very tough day out
I'd be interested in seeing the actual route (PM it to me), and my route is obviously based upon this idea, but when I heard of it I thought that it wouldn't be that satisfactory - after you drop down you presumably have to go for a fair bit before climbing back up again else you'd be going back up the same way. With my route you drop down towards the centre of the route so it doesn't suffer from this problem. In short - more ascent, less distance.