Yes they are! And I agree with Fell Donkey too... what is it with some clubs? Clubruns are what they are, clubruns, not races... you don't ride people off your wheel on a clubrun, nor do you leave anyone behind or, what the dynamo does, intimidate other users of Richmond Park out of the park on a Saturday morning by riding dangerously and intimidatingly!!!

I have also raced with some of them, and in the bunch, they aren't much better... I stick with my experience of them: tossers!

Quote Originally Posted by daz h View Post
Hann its not that they are tossers. Lots of clubmen have this mentality in cycling. I found it as a teenager trying my luck. One Team Director in the eighties told me to forget it cos I was a fat b./////rd. I was 13 at the time and riding a junior criterium in a local race. That guy was a top team director. Elitism was and still is a big part of being a top rider. Sorry but it is.