I'm out now. no point risking a long trip out in the middle of the night in winter with no training and a dodgy ticker reserve already inplace before I'm inundated with requests.

Out last night near cut throat and there was a a group justs setting off for a reccie about 7.15 was it you.
This morning went for a walk up abbey brook and saw another group of 3 passing wet stones at about 10.30

Either of them forumite teams?