Quote Originally Posted by Muddy Retriever View Post
I don't follow your logic. The EU is quite happy to do trade deals with other countries that are not in the EU including Switzerland, which is right at its heart. If the EU is on a process of ever closer union with the view to creating a European federal state what sense does it make for us to go along with it? In fact the EU had a golden chance to keep the UK in if it had wanted to do so. It could have accepted that not all countries want to be so closely integrated and agreed to Cameron's modest proposals. Instead they sent him home with his tail between his legs. Had they compromised there is every chance the referendum result would have gone the other way.
Different times. Different political agendas. Different mistakes. Different people.

People. It is not countries negotiating here. It is a few people across a table- maybe only two in reality. And whatever the outcome those two/few people will "sell" the deal as a success.

People. Do you think if Donald Trump had been hired to do the negotiating rather than that buffoon David Davis we would be where we are now?