Really sorrry I won't be there, (have shingles ) as it is my favourite training range of hills - though I come up from the Dinnas Mawddy end. Missed it last year also due to injury, but walked up from the other end to see all the runners coming through.

Hope you all have a good day. The true trig is as described, top of a rough scramble section, you look directly down onto the lake below, vertical drop the lake, so don't overshoot the top .

Expect it to be cold, it does catch the breeze up there.