thanks yiannis
just goes to show recceing is priceless
im still at a loss to see which way back is the best from swirl band on the map.
i think we dropped to far to the left and lost the path , finally picking it up again somewhere near nettle slack.
but then as we dropped down to the road i saw runners coming down much further to my right, at least 300mtrs
what i did was and i will admit my mind was in another place was to think red tarn inbetween cold pike and pike o blisco was blea tarn

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Iwas convinced we had to head up there.
we had both had a conversation further back and decided the checkpoint was right below us . Then Andy said no the checkpoint is another mile down the road. Then it all clicked into place. haha.
so yiannis please can you describe the best way back Do you just follow the path to three shire stone.
If so im at a loss to see where we went wrong???
having never seen that part of the lakes it totally threw me.
otherwise we had a perfect race.