core strength

[Mountain Goatess]

Would building up my core strength help me get up the bigger hills?????????

I live,train & race in the North East, and manage ok, but whenever I venture to the bigger hills (Black Combe so far this year) I get aches and pains in my lower back whilst climbing. (This eases with the gradient)

Should I do some core strength stuff or just get on the bigger hills more often?

Yes NB. Building up your core strength provides a great support for your back. You can also do back strengthening exercises to balance the two.

[Mountain Goatess]

Do you respect the views of Adolf Hitler?

I am talking about respecting peoples views on this forum. People don't come on here to be put down. There are alot of very experienced guys on here who have spent alot of hard work, blood, sweat and tears to become as fit as they are. I think you and all of us should respect that they know what they are talking about. going back to what I said...what works for one doesn't always work for another.

[Nee Bother]

Cheers CL & MG....have been to a few circuit sessions earlier in year but found I was aching too much afterwards and seemed to be affecting my training, so I stopped going.
Was thinking about starting again but may just do some basic stuff at home for now.

[XRunner]

I can be quite intolerant.

Maybe a lot of people don't agree with what I'm saying.

Open mindedness is not applicable to me.

I believe most people on this forum would be in total agreement with these statements.

[CL]

I am talking about respecting peoples views on this forum. People don't come on here to be put down. There are alot of very experienced guys on here who have spent alot of hard work, blood, sweat and tears to become as fit as they are. I think you and all of us should respect that they know what they are talking about. going back to what I said...what works for one doesn't always work for another.

No they come on here for honest opinions!

The point is a lot of people don't know what they're talking about, and you'll see that a lot of threads involve people disagreeing.

A chap on this thread earlier said that power is 'force divided by time.' It was an honest error on his behalf, but it was false.If no one corrected this error, then some might accept it including youngsters.Debate is about rooting out contradictions in one's philosophy.

By the way what doesn't work doesn't work.

[CL]

I believe most people on this forum would be in total agreement with these statements.

Quite literally X-Runner

[CL]

Cheers CL & MG....have been to a few circuit sessions earlier in year but found I was aching too much afterwards and seemed to be affecting my training, so I stopped going.
Was thinking about starting again but may just do some basic stuff at home for now.

The aching will subside after a couple of weeks.Perservere.

Regards

[Chugger]

[quote=christopher leigh;120766]

Chugger if you think I'm joking then you're wrong about me.What gets me is you tell me to look at the science and have an open mind, yet you dismiss perfectly good training advice I gave to another.

What you really mean is you'll only consider ideas from 'respected' sources.Those who belong to your clan and distribute worthless training advice about 'deep postural thing'(s).

Science is all about having an 'active mind' and judging ideas critically, even if they come from taxi drivers.Open mindedness is not applicable to me,or scientists because not everything can be true.

I have an open mind not because I belong to a clan, but because I want to give myself the best possible chance of doing what I do, to the best of my ability.......if I have some muscles that I don't use well, taking some time to improve seems like a reasonable experiment to me. I DO also do pure strength training, but as this thread relates to CORE STABILITY, I've commented on your input regarding this.

I have never criticised your training........I am happy for you if it works and I would always say that you need to make your own decisions regarding advice. Hence: don't dismiss it, suck it and see!?

What I would question is that you have dismissed other peoples views in such a sweeping fashion: see the quote above regarding "worthless training advice"..........you cannot possibly justify that statement except by turning a blind eye to the sound base of evidence that now exists.

I'm sure I'm not alone in noting one of our gold medal winning swimmers quoting "Pilates" in his chat with Sharon Davies this week.

Take a leaf out of the professionals book, they DO have the best guidance, us mere mortals should try and fly with the eagles, even if we usually end up pecking with the hens!!
Good luck.

[CL]

[QUOTE=Chugger;121091]

I have an open mind not because I belong to a clan, but because I want to give myself the best possible chance of doing what I do, to the best of my ability.......if I have some muscles that I don't use well, taking some time to improve seems like a reasonable experiment to me. I DO also do pure strength training, but as this thread relates to CORE STABILITY, I've commented on your input regarding this.

I have never criticised your training........I am happy for you if it works and I would always say that you need to make your own decisions regarding advice. Hence: don't dismiss it, suck it and see!?

What I would question is that you have dismissed other peoples views in such a sweeping fashion: see the quote above regarding "worthless training advice"..........you cannot possibly justify that statement except by turning a blind eye to the sound base of evidence that now exists.

I'm sure I'm not alone in noting one of our gold medal winning swimmers quoting "Pilates" in his chat with Sharon Davies this week.

Take a leaf out of the professionals book, they DO have the best guidance, us mere mortals should try and fly with the eagles, even if we usually end up pecking with the hens!!
Good luck.

Chugger I don't just consider 'core training'(ball)worthless, I also think that the advice given in regard to such training is reckless to the point of insanity.

For a professional healer to advocate doing dumbell exercises(and others) on an unstable platform, is tantamount to professional incompetence.

Physios, should know that sudden movements are the cause of a lot of injuries, and yet they advocate unstable training techniques that greatly increase the risk of injuries, whilst doing nothing for fitness.

The science of proper physical training has been available for decades.In this day and age though, most people want the easy route, and they'll find no shortage of individuals willing to offer them that route, for a quick buck.

Just look at the drugs crisis in sports today and you'll see what I mean.

[Penguin]

[quote=christopher leigh;121495]

Just look at the drugs crisis in sports today and you'll see what I mean.

er no.. it's only a crisis if you therefore view it as one.. but if you don't use em you therefore don't see it as a crisis..

by the way i can understand where you are coming from but been tectchy in a discussion on ere will only get a slating or 20 back from others..