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    Quote Originally Posted by Witton Park View Post
    Lucky You!

    As a similar male I do feel discriminated against.

    I work hard, pay proportionately more tax than most, do voluntary work, abide the law and respect all others.

    I have no NHS dental care, I have had to put my 2 kids in to private education as I was offered a school that was not even an option - and given no leave to appeal.
    (I would have had if my kids would have been disfunctional - in fact if they were statemented I could get some benefits from the State!)

    In fact I am probably in one of the few sections of society in which everywhere I go that has the involvement of the State, I am at a disadvantage to the majority of the population.
    sorry about that.... but that's the way of the world and everybody has gripes about something. But you're not being told you have to leave your home because you're the wrong colour. No party/Government can please everyone and that's why they get booted out every so often. We need a change in this country, but extremist politics are not it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nikalas View Post
    But you're not being told you have to leave your home because you're the wrong colour.
    No I'm not. But my kids were put at the back of the queue for 2 decent secondary schools here in Blackburn on the grounds of religion.
    They were placed lower down the pecking order than Christians, Muslims, Jews, even Moonies and probably Jedi Knights!

    That is even though they were attending a C of E primary school and Sunday Shool at the time of entry and had been since their toddler days.

    However, no one else is being told to leave their home because of colour either - it's just a bunch of morons who will eventually get put back in their box and have no consequence whatever in the scheme of things.

    On an earlier point you made, I'm not sure why the BNP are allowed to have racist policies and membership rules - I suppose because nobody has tested it in a court of law yet, but the BNP does seem to be illegal to me.

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    Extremism is never a solution, either way...

    Interestingly, after almost 14 years in this country, working, contributing to society, paying my taxes and generally being law abiding, I still look at your politics from the outside... Mainly because I am not allowed to vote. I think that is odd...

    What was it again, no taxation without representation?

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    Quote Originally Posted by nikalas View Post
    The "kick up the arse" referred to the people who didn't bother to vote or thought not voting was a protest.
    Thats a bit unfair. I couldn't be arsed to vote but thats was a fair amount influenced by not having a clue who to vote for:

    Tories: Generally anti europe which I'm not, expense claims for cleaning moats and duck houses, David 'I'm a bit too smarmy for my own boots' Cameron (I prefer William Haig), generally pro countryside (a good thing) but at the same time too many buffoons and for me too many bad recollections of the devastation caused by Margaret Thatcher. All about sound bites and spin and never answer direct questions.

    Labour: Gordon bleeding prudent, does that funny thing with his jaw when speaking, Brown. Benefit cheats the lot of them, too socialist and left wing, mess about with the tax and benefits system to the point of being incomprehensible. All about sound bites and spin and never answer direct questions

    Liberals: Ha! Just ha!

    Were it a general election I guess I'd probably have voted conservative but only on the basis of disliking marginally less about them than all the others

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hanneke View Post
    Extremism is never a solution, either way...

    What was it again, no taxation without representation?
    A one woman Boston tea party

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    Re: Makes you proud to be Brit

    Rather than being worried about 'positive' discrimination that minorities receive (though in reality I'm not sure this is anything other than a Daily Mail led scaremongering campaign), I am more concerned by the fact that in this country there are two choices open to everyone:

    1) Work hard, receive an average salary and watch that income disappear on bills;

    2) Sit on your arse all day, receving the same income (if not more) on various benefits because you're 'ill' and then get the same bills paid, leaving you to spend a fortune propping up the local hostelries and off-licences.

    I feel the amount of support the government has given these wasters (and there are plenty of white/straight/able-bodied folks in there too!!) is much more damaging to this country in the long-run.

    They drain the public services without contributing over a large proportion of their working lives. I am sure now that the generation has already been born that will be fully sustained through state support without contributing a day's work.

    Their kids are being brought up to recognise that doing nothing to help yourself has no consequences and therefore have no aspiration to anything greater. It will be this generation we're relying on in 10-20 years time. I'm not convinced there'll be enough 'normal' people (of any race/national origin/sexual persuasion) around to keep this country afloat.

    Cheery thought, eh?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Witton Park View Post

    On an earlier point you made, I'm not sure why the BNP are allowed to have racist policies and membership rules - I suppose because nobody has tested it in a court of law yet, but the BNP does seem to be illegal to me.
    Let's try it... as in test it in a court of law...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stolly View Post
    A one woman Boston tea party
    I have done a LOT of corresponding wth Downing steert about it in the past, it got rather wearing so I gave up

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    Re: Makes you proud to be Brit

    Quote Originally Posted by Witton Park View Post
    No I'm not. But my kids were put at the back of the queue for 2 decent secondary schools here in Blackburn on the grounds of religion.
    They were placed lower down the pecking order than Christians, Muslims, Jews, even Moonies and probably Jedi Knights!

    That is even though they were attending a C of E primary school and Sunday Shool at the time of entry and had been since their toddler days.

    However, no one else is being told to leave their home because of colour either - it's just a bunch of morons who will eventually get put back in their box and have no consequence whatever in the scheme of things.

    On an earlier point you made, I'm not sure why the BNP are allowed to have racist policies and membership rules - I suppose because nobody has tested it in a court of law yet, but the BNP does seem to be illegal to me.
    The whole fact that religion has any bearing on schooling/education is a whole different matter. Education should be totally secular and un-related to religious belief. We don't indoctrinate kids with political beliefs so why do the same with religion... let them make up their own minds when they're old enough to make a rational and informed choice... but that's a whole different rant/discussion.

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    Re: Makes you proud to be Brit

    "On an earlier point you made, I'm not sure why the BNP are allowed to have racist policies and membership rules - I suppose because nobody has tested it in a court of law yet, but the BNP does seem to be illegal to me."

    They're just about to discuss this on Radio 5 with a QC

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