Cheats

[FellMonster]

About right from you FM
School boy.

You should be so lucky "Colossus"....you're not my type

[Hanneke]

They check to see if your kit is tight? that must be a lot of groping. A (wo)man of taste

Hmmmm, I wonder if it is time to start volunteering at fell races, to check peoples kit

[PeeJay]

Where's his map, whistle, compass and bottoms then? Up his arse????

Lloyd's a good lad and I still think Ian's being a touch harsh to be honest peejay

Was MWC required in this event FM? Perhaps the RO dispensed with it owing to conditions on the day...

[FellMonster]

Was MWC required in this event FM? Perhaps the RO dispensed with it owing to conditions on the day...

No idea sir....obviously I was being facetious earlier....there was certainly, from memory, no announcement about kit.......no matter to be honest.....I still think using the term "cheat" is a little harsh

[CL]

Iain is right. On the run up sitch La there were runners around me, without the proper kit. I resent it when my bum-bag weighed around a pound.

So a proposition. Lets put a minimum weight on a bum-bag. The weight should be a reasonable expectation of proper kit I.e. bottoms, tops,map, compass, whistle and food. Minus sweat.

As you finish through the funnel at the end, you place the kit on a small Salter scale. This would be waived for anyone who needed to put on their kit during the run.Anyone below the minimum would be DQ. Of course you'd have to ignore the food if it's been consumed, or else weigh at the start as well.

No incentive now to not carry kit. People could still cheat by swapping bags etc, but this would be risky, as someone might see them.

[FellrunningGod123]

Its alright saying its all down to the race organizer, but how much jobs do you think they do in preparation as it is? Yes the kit checks need to be done, but it all takes time which most organizers don't have much of. For example the '3 peaks.' The organiser cant check every runner there if there was 500 people like 2008(extreme circumstance i know). But it will always happen

[FellMonster]

Its alright saying its all down to the race organizer, but how much jobs do you think they do in preparation as it is? Yes the kit checks need to be done, but it all takes time which most organizers don't have much of. For example the '3 peaks.' The organiser cant check every runner there if there was 500 people like 2008(extreme circumstance i know). But it will always happen

It's a bit much to ask of any organiser, even of a small race.......Peejay will have suitable experience to comment on this, being a several time race organiser himself (british champ race)...what's your take peejay?

[TheHeathens]

Why don't you DNA test the runners to ensure that they are who they say they are? Or fingerprint them...

I thought running was first and foremost meant to be enjoyable, things like this take the fun out of sport - there has to be an element of trust in your fellow runners.

[dominion]

Iain is right. On the run up sitch La there were runners around me, without the proper kit. I resent it when my bum-bag weighed around a pound.

So a proposition. Lets put a minimum weight on a bum-bag. The weight should be a reasonable expectation of proper kit I.e. bottoms, tops,map, compass, whistle and food. Minus sweat.

As you finish through the funnel at the end, you place the kit on a small Salter scale. This would be waived for anyone who needed to put on their kit during the run.Anyone below the minimum would be DQ. Of course you'd have to ignore the food if it's been consumed, or else weigh at the start as well.

No incentive now to not carry kit. People could still cheat by swapping bags etc, but this would be risky, as someone might see them.

You sound like Max Mosely now, are you going to limit the amount spent on kit to prevent rich runners from buying ultra-lightweight, but still high quality kit?

[IanDarkpeak]

Iain is right. On the run up sitch La there were runners around me, without the proper kit. I resent it when my bum-bag weighed around a pound.

So a proposition. Lets put a minimum weight on a bum-bag. The weight should be a reasonable expectation of proper kit I.e. bottoms, tops,map, compass, whistle and food. Minus sweat.

As you finish through the funnel at the end, you place the kit on a small Salter scale. This would be waived for anyone who needed to put on their kit during the run.Anyone below the minimum would be DQ. Of course you'd have to ignore the food if it's been consumed, or else weigh at the start as well.

No incentive now to not carry kit. People could still cheat by swapping bags etc, but this would be risky, as someone might see them.

It's a thought CL but I can't see using weight working. would we provide weights to to bring packs up to the same weight if under? It's all about carry the correct kit what ever it weighs.

Why don't you DNA test the runners to ensure that they are who they say they are? Or fingerprint them...

I thought running was first and foremost meant to be enjoyable, things like this take the fun out of sport - there has to be an element of trust in your fellow runners.

Running is about enjoying your self and there were times the at the race the other day I wasn't because of the cheats because they p!ss me off. trust would be fine if it wasn't so blatant.

I think you are getting pedantic now with the DNA etc even if it is toungue in cheek.