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    Quote Originally Posted by Old Whippet View Post
    Cheers DT. Go for it! I maybe should look into it further... e.g. what about rythm? HHH's ,one two, one two, one two, one two, one two; example suggests rythm, but the Yeats example does not.....
    ah well....it's a challenge.
    I've just been having a quick look OW and found this on wikipedia:

    When a pair of syllables is arranged as a short followed by a long, or an unstressed followed by a stressed, pattern, that foot is said to be "iambic". The English word "trapeze" is an example of an iambic pair of syllables, since the word is made up of two syllables ("tra—peze") and is pronounced with the stress on the second syllable ("tra—PEZE", rather than "TRA—peze"). Iambic pentameter is a line made up of five pairs of short/long, or unstressed/stressed, syllables.

    I think that is where the ti-tum bit comes in...I should know this from english lit a-level but it was a long time ago.

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    Can we drink lambic beer instead



    No stressed syllables here, Hes.....Cheers
    Last edited by XRunner; 14-01-2010 at 12:48 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Derby Tup View Post
    Good to see you taking on the iambic pentameter challenge Old Whippet! Think I might have a go; especially as rhyming isn't essential
    Sounds easier than getting a bin loaders job
    My bins are full again,
    They've not been emptied for three weeks,
    Think i'll do it myself,
    Trip to the tip, instead of ringing and giving gip

    Spot the bit of non-essential rhyming

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    Quote Originally Posted by XRunner View Post
    Here is a good example:-
    Paradise Lost
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    John Milton

    Chapter 1 - Book 1

    Of Man's first disobedience, and the fruit
    Of that forbidden tree whose mortal taste
    Brought death into the World, and all our woe,
    With loss of Eden, till one greater Man
    Restore us, and regain the blissful seat,
    Sing, Heavenly Muse, that, on the secret top
    Of Oreb, or of Sinai, didst inspire
    That shepherd who first taught the chosen seed
    In the beginning how the heavens and earth
    Rose out of Chaos: or, if Sion hill
    Delight thee more, and Siloa's brook that flowed
    Fast by the oracle of God, I thence
    Invoke thy aid to my adventurous song,
    That with no middle flight intends to soar.
    Thanks Xrunner! I'm breaking the poem down into syllables and looking for the stresses but it is still a little confusing but HHH brought up the subject at a very good time for me as I've just been reading about syllables and stresses in relations to haikus and maybe one will help my understanding of the other.

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    Quote Originally Posted by XRunner View Post
    Can we drink lambic beer instead



    No stressed syllables here, Hes.....Cheers
    Cheers big ears!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hes View Post
    kicking off my boots
    I knock my heating back on
    and pour a nightcap

    I'm a wuss Merry, am consoling myself that a month away will have kept my heating bills down a bit.
    Hope they ain't motorcycle boots your kicking off, it's slippy/slidey out there, take care, warm up and enjoy your nightcap

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hes View Post
    Cheers big ears!
    Freckle will be most disappointed that she has missed a good drink

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hes View Post
    I've just been having a quick look OW and found this on wikipedia:

    When a pair of syllables is arranged as a short followed by a long, or an unstressed followed by a stressed, pattern, that foot is said to be "iambic". The English word "trapeze" is an example of an iambic pair of syllables, since the word is made up of two syllables ("tra—peze") and is pronounced with the stress on the second syllable ("tra—PEZE", rather than "TRA—peze"). Iambic pentameter is a line made up of five pairs of short/long, or unstressed/stressed, syllables.

    I think that is where the ti-tum bit comes in...I should know this from english lit a-level but it was a long time ago.
    Cheers Hes - a fine piece of research. So I guess that's where the rhythm lies.
    Maybe I'll rise to this on another day. And by the way, I can't imagine I'm the only one here who doesn't want you to keep your illustrated poetry travelogue to yourself.

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    Quote Originally Posted by merrylegs View Post
    Hope they ain't motorcycle boots your kicking off, it's slippy/slidey out there, take care, warm up and enjoy your nightcap
    Thanks Merry! Don't worry, I ditched the motorbike idea and my Honda is still languishing in my shed. Couldn't get to running club tonight so consoled myself with a swift half in t'pub (on foot).

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    do we need 5 of these lined up to make an Iambic pentameter? Could be the drink of the Fell Poets.....

    Quote Originally Posted by Hes View Post
    Cheers big ears!

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