When I read that I thought WTF? but then you justified it, I think that's fair enough. Ideally I want any kids I have educated state school, mixed sex, but if that's not suitable then I'll look at other options.Originally Posted by biara
I'd certainly not let my political/social views give any kids I have a disadvantage from the off.
The fact is at the state school level there is a MASSIVE variation in quality, from the few schools I've been at/known about/worked at.
As another forumite posted it's above Ethiopia and borders Djibouti and Sudan. It's classified as the horn of Africa and is a beautiful place. You stated thre rift valley and that runs through Kenya, ethiopia and into Eritrea. There is quite strong evidence (but don't tell Nick Griffin) that humans evolved in this region from fossils, check out Australopethicus afarensis (or 'Lucy').
The country now has a few 'issues' and is ranked similar to North Korea with regards to human rights. I lived there 95-98, having extended my contract once. When I left the country had gone to war with Ethiopia and tensions are still high. Where I worked has been flattened and most of my town (Barentu) was flattened as well.
Sorry if that sounded preachy, but those 3 years were some of the best of my life and on my bucket list is going back there hopefully with my children so they can see how gorgeous the place was.
Yes that's what I'm saying Noel. He should act on his conviction, or change his conviction to support private schools, now he's seen how much better they are.
That isn't what he's saying though. He's saying in effect, private schools are wrong, but hey,my daughter is at one.
He's cutting off the hand that feeds him, or should I say feeds his daughter. Either way there isn't any excuse for such hypocrisy. Not since the alternative(state schools) is offered.
I just have. I noticed that it's all the 'have my cake and eat it' forumites that think Biara's position is justified.
Actually his position reminds me of people who keep telling us how wonderful the NHS is, and that it should remain a great British establishment, then rush off to buy private health insurance, whilst skimming on their tax returns.
It's called having a foot in both camps and is a characteristic of whimps.
It worked so well did it Witton? Right answer this please. What happens to the children who only just fail their 11+ and are sent to secondary schools?Biara - Sounds like you would approve of a return to the Grammar School / Secondary Modern system of the 60s that worked so well.
It allowed social mobility - kids from poorer backgrounds could get a top class academic education.
Kids who went to the secondary modern were allowed to develop academically or vocationally dependant upon their ability and desire.
But I bet I've read you wrong
You've just had childeren or you've just commented?
I think I was the only forumite to support biara but noel did give a thoughtful response
Not sure why I'm being labelled a have my cake and eat it person. You don't know me. For all you know I might be desperate for kids and unable to have them for whatever reason
Similarly you're not in a position to call me a whimp (sic)
Poacher turned game-keeper
Dont think us young lads ont forum have turned out so bad....ok maybe not but non of us (Me, Fleeter, Al?, Scott etc) have been to grammar school and the difference isnt that big, and they will get over it...if you are clever enough and want it you can stillget your 10 A*s
I agree with Biara as well
If he can afford it then why not. As long as they exist then surely its a good thing to send the cleverst people there in order to give themselves a seemingly better education...however it isnt the only way to be successful.
Secondary schools and colleges are bringing themselves down with mixed-ability classes in order to not put down students. BIG MISTAKE.
In my GCSE German, 9 of us were predicted A's but becasue our teacher had to teach to a C standar only two of us ended up passing with a B
Take an example CL, where someone believes that the state should intervene to close down public schools, since they think this would benefit the overall education system.
But, since the government doesn't close public schools, that person would be perfectly justified in sending their kids to a public school, since they currently offer better schooling in certain areas.
I'd love to sometimes discuss your life-choices CL. Most people take decisions based on a range of reasons. This often opens them up to the unjust criticism of being a hypocrit (or a wimp !?).
You just see things too black and white CL (although I'm sure 99.9% of the time it's just to get a rise out of folk as surely no-one is really so naive and judgemental?) ... life isn't that simple nor are the decisions that people have to make. Yes, you can argue that someone who's against private schools but sends their kids to one is a hypocrite, but, if the state school on offer is no good, why should the child suffer for their parents' beliefs? Sometimes morals and principles have to be compromised and, although doing so will cause people mental anguish and weaken their stance, it certainly doesn't make them wimps or bad people. In fact knowing when to compromise your own principles for the sake of others takes wisdom, maturity and courage. If only because you have to defend your actions to blinkered individuals who adopt a holier than thou attitude.
Also I think your corrupting of the "Forum Mascots" thread which was a bit of lighthearted and good natured fun with your personal and unprovoked attack of LD, was totally out of order and not in the spirit of this forum. I've enjoyed some of my debates with you but I think you need to wind your head in a bit.
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