I was always led to believe that Borrowdale was the best entry level for the Lakes Classics. If you can do that then look to step up to the harder ones the following year
I was always led to believe that Borrowdale was the best entry level for the Lakes Classics. If you can do that then look to step up to the harder ones the following year
I think its easy to underestimate Borrowdale in comparison to Wasdale or Ennerdale - although quite a bit shorter its still a hard race and is significantly harder (I think) than Langdale or 3 Shires, perhaps roughly equal to Duddon in terms of effort/time although Borowdale is rougher than Duddon which has a lot of more runnable ground. I suggest either Duddon or Borrowdale is a good start to the LCT but if you want to qualify and can only do a few races go for Duddon - although I dont see a great difference between the two (in many ways Borrowdale is perhaps the harder race) Duddon is classed as a superlong, Borrowdale as a long and you need two superlongs for the series - so to count you could do Duddon, one of either Ennerdale or Wasdale and any one from the others - although you can obviously do as many as you like.Originally Posted by IanDarkpeak
Last edited by Mark G; 26-01-2010 at 08:55 PM.
Going to come across a bit grumpy here. If you are a novice as your name suggests, dont bother with the Borrowdale as you will be timed out. Have not done the Wasdale so unsure on how severe the CP time outs are. The 3 Shires might be your best bet for a start.
Aye your right Roy, 3 Shires or Langdale could be your best bet novice or even Fairfield to start fairly easy work up to Wasdale ect.., there's always Anni waltz in April or if your feeling daring the TWA ?.
Why? That's more than a bit presumptuous. If they are relatively fit beating the cut offs shouldn't be the issue. TBH the main concern would be do they have the ability to get themselves around the course in bad weather. If they do then jump in and go for it.
My first ever fell race was an 18 miler.
I've done Three Shires thanks - I love the way people instantly assume you are not capable.
I'm after a view as to which is the race to pick as I can only do one this year (assuming I can get round either)
Your capable of Borrowdale, your probably capable of Wasdale, do Borrowdale first though and Duddon Valley if possible
Just noticed pre-entry is already open for Wasdale.
21miles/9000ft.
So it looks like the climbing/terrain/ and distance will be a big factor here
I would agree with the second half of that post Merry but from personal experienceYour capable of Borrowdale, your probably capable of Wasdale, do Borrowdale first though and Duddon Valley if possiblenot the first part
I think the Wasdale cutoffs are difficult because I normally start every long race very slow for the first couple of miles while I get into a rhythm and then speed up a bit later on but Wasdale doesn't allow you that luxury you have to start as you mean to go on to hit the cutoffs, more so than a race like Duddon Valley where the cutoffs from my experience are more easily achievable.
Actually it would be interesting to know if there is a minimum finish time you would have to achieve in a successful Borrowdale round to be able to hit the cutoffs in the Wasdale ? Assuming the same level of fitness for both runs and no navigational cockups what times in the Borrowdale did people take who hit the Great Gable cutoff in the Wasdale race with les than 5 mins to spare ?
(sorry Novice this doesn't really answer your question)
Not done Wasdale Alf, did Borrowdale last year and finished within seconds of a Keswick Lady runner in 4h 20 something. She did Wasdale setting off at the back in 6h 5m. Agree, the Wasdale cut-offs are tight, suppose the only way is to have a go and see what happensI would agree with the second half of that post Merry but from personal experience
I think the Wasdale cutoffs are difficult because I normally start every long race very slow for the first couple of miles while I get into a rhythm and then speed up a bit later on but Wasdale doesn't allow you that luxury you have to start as you mean to go on to hit the cutoffs, more so than a race like Duddon Valley where the cutoffs from my experience are more easily achievable.
Actually it would be interesting to know if there is a minimum finish time you would have to achieve in a successful Borrowdale round to be able to hit the cutoffs in the Wasdale ? Assuming the same level of fitness for both runs and no navigational cockups what times in the Borrowdale did people take who hit the Great Gable cutoff in the Wasdale race with les than 5 mins to spare ?
(sorry Novice this doesn't really answer your question)
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