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Quote Originally Posted by christopher leigh View Post
I just want to mention something. In the past few years a number of athletes I know have developed hypothyroidism. In each case they had depression, and the odd thing was none of them had anything to be depressed about. No problems with the spouse, money issues, or job fears. All struggled to train due to a lack of energy, and all felt a big dark cloud over their conciousness.

In one case the doctor was going to put the person on anti-depressants, wtihout even checking thyroid function. The patient knowing someone else in the family had hypothyroidism, had to suggest to the doctor that it might be thyroid related. Being an athlete the doctor just said "you don't look like you've got that."

Theres always a reason why someones depressed, ill etc, their usually (but not always) not aware of it though, you cant say 'they' had no reason to be depressed etc, you will not have been familiar with the more intimate contents of their mind, i dont advise meds, unless in the most serious of circumstances, risk to self/others/psychotic etc, psychotherapy is what i mainly recommend, as thats what i do, i feel youre slightly missrepresenting me with your last comment.
Egor I don't need to know the intimate content of the mind. If a person is hypothyroid their brain starts to shut down, because the chemical balance changes.

I agree with you in one respect, there is always a cause to depression(including wrong choices), but in the context of my argument I was pointing out a situation where volitional aspects weren't appropriate.