Does God exist?

[Guick Dotto]

Am very sceptical about god being in existence, just don't buy it. Was open minded until I went to Eritrea for 3 years, seeing the famine and way of life there, people believed in God but they had a very low life expectancy due to lack of quality food etc. that I couldn't really believe a 'God' would allow this to occur as this was not their fault. I believe that there is GOOD in the world as I believe that there is BAD, but I can't get my head around this idea of a figure creating everything.

This is an example of what I said further back in the thread. It's your idea of what God would be if he were to exist that you don't believe in ie a God who loves us so much that he miracles away our problems. I'm not even sure some days whether I want God to be there but I can't just allow myself to say it's nonsense, not with all the amazing coincidences and all. Not sure about an after life but science tells us matter is not destroyed so something's eternal. Again... why?

[IanDarkpeak]

not with all the amazing coincidences and all.

Don't want to get in to this too much but just curious what you mean by the above statement?

[Grouse]

Who made hogs and dogs and frogs?

[Rob Furness]

Who made hogs and dogs and frogs?

There you go, and after that lot you'll be producing logs as well

[Guick Dotto]

Absolutely. Existance is in no way banal. Its bloomin' wonderful. The amazing coincidences that have had to occur for all of us to be conscious of our existance are almost unbelieveable; not quite impossible, just very very improbable. It is amazing to live at a point in history where we now understand our existance to such an extent where we don't have to resort to supernatural sky gods for the answers.

Ian Dark Peak please see above quote. Whereas HH finds the amazing coincidences etc a source of wonder and a reason not to believe in God I'm sort of inclined the other way but with the same reasoning.

[Brotherton Lad]

I'm with Harry. When I stare at the night sky, I sense the numen in the awe and the wonder. But, for me, the numen is inside my head. It is all a result of amazing coincidences over billions of years, but it's not all that amazing because these are the coincidences that work (in this universe). The other coincidences have failed or died away, leaving the ones that best fit the laws of the universe. A sort of Darwinism of physics.

[Grouse]

Who made bats and rats and cats?

[Grouse]

Who made everything?

[Grouse]

Who put the gold into the sunshine?

[Grouse]

Sussed.