UKA British Fell & Hill Relays

[Rudolph Hooker]

As ever, you're quite correct Iain, it did say that (for ALL legs) checkpoints must be visited in numerical order in the pre-race info. I should have downloaded a copy and read it before the event!!

I still think that control descriptions should normally be made available to runners. Especially for control number 4!

(I also hear that leg 3 control 6 had quite a few visits from leg 1 runners!!)

[daz h]

Can't give you a scan of the map for obvious reasons, but the GRs were as follows:-

1. 22841 07558 Monument
2. 22138 06046 Fence Jn
3. 19733 06634 W. Lomond summit
4. 19481 07009 Top of track
5. 18968 07078 Bonnet Stane
6. 22186 06889 Knoll

NB These GRs are from my QUO 2 S/W and may not be exactly spot on.

Amazingly, the map we were given had neither control descriptions (we only received them with our Sportident times after the leg!!) nor any instructions as to what order the controls needed to be visited in.

Obviously most teams did it 1 to 6, but we did spot one V50 team arriving at 5 having missed 4 in the clag and who would have been pretty justified in doing the two controls in the reverse order! However, as both were sporting gentlemen, they reascended the steep hill and did it correctly.

hey its only a game

[Rudolph Hooker]

hey its only a game

... is that what Glossopdale said to you when you tried to overtake them at the Ian Hodgson relay? ;-)

[BillJ]

I thought this, I'm fairly sure control points have been visited in any order on past nav legs, wasn't that the case at the hayfield Relays...

I'm pretty sure I remember having to visit the nav leg controls in the Hayfield relays in a set order. But I could be wrong - my memory is going with age!

I think the only time, at least in recent years, that the nav leg has allowed controls to be visited in any order was the one CVFR hosted (2006).

[Welsh Harrier]

At our event in North Wales a few (two?) years ago the first and last check point was the same (i.e. it had to be visited twice in order!)

[rocksteady]

I`ve never seen the point of the nav leg in the FRA relays,after all this is a running sport.if its navigation events your after ,do MM or orienteering

[Bloodhound]

Were you at Ennerdale in 2010........they were all nav legs in the mist!!!!

[Multiterrainer]

I`ve never seen the point of the nav leg in the FRA relays,after all this is a running sport.if its navigation events your after ,do MM or orienteering

So orienteering isn't a running sport then?

Try telling that to the winner of this year's Langdale Horseshoe among others!!

[GeoffB]

I`ve never seen the point of the nav leg in the FRA relays,after all this is a running sport.if its navigation events your after ,do MM or orienteering

Ridiculous! Of course fell running is about navigation. How do you think people found their way around Wasdale this year (just to give one example)? Not only straightforward navigation, but route choice as well. I've always maintained that fell running is much more a branch of mountaineering than it is a branch of athletics.

[IainR]

Ridiculous! Of course fell running is about navigation. How do you think people found their way around Wasdale this year (just to give one example)? Not only straightforward navigation, but route choice as well. I've always maintained that fell running is much more a branch of mountaineering than it is a branch of athletics.

I like the nav leg, but for me that should be the extent of the nav. All other courses should be marked IMO.

If not as its a different course each year there is too much advantage to local runners.

Main issue is Sunday relays...next year sounds good.