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    Re: :D Barefoot Running

    Quote Originally Posted by bfluc View Post
    Here in that blog post there is an animated GIF of the evolution of my foot over 3 years

    http://www.adventureinprogress.com/l...transformation
    http://www.adventureinprogress.com/l...transformation

    would we say after looking at that picrture that the canMt redevelop after the age of 12?
    His muscles and tendons have undergone hypertrophy and it is clearly working for him. This does not contradict my view at all. Read above.

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    Re: :D Barefoot Running

    Quote Originally Posted by Twister View Post

    Why do we need to generate spring from our foot arch? I thought that the arch was part of the cushioning system, its the achillies tendon where you want your spring, surely.
    Thats because you dont understand biomechanics. The achillies is a lever yes, but due to the loading of the arch and F = ma, (Newton’s 2nd Law) you get a reversal of this force during the propulsion.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Roy Scott View Post
    His muscles and tendons have undergone hypertrophy and it is clearly working for him. This does not contradict my view at all. Read above.
    The "he" is someone I know very well because it is me. Would have you guessed that the hypertropy you're describing was how my feet were less than 5 months prior to crossing the line of my 3rd marathon. No health specialists I have seen in the past told me that I had feet that had undergone atrophy and neither was I told by one of them that my feet are now in a state of hypertrophy. Even me while while having exchanges in a thread at the period of time when I took the picture of my feet 3 years after starting transitioning to barefooting running (not full time barefooting because I live in the Crazy Canucks land where winter means dealing with temp way below 0 degress Celsius; minus 20-30 ; with % humidity sometimes over 90%) I was writing that the change wasn't so dramatic until someone from the forum made the animated GIF with the 2 pictures I had posted on the WEB. The first time I saw it I thought that the scale of the 2 pictures of the animated GIF wasn't right. When I took a closer look at the heel I saw that scale was right because the heel proportions are the same on the 2 pics.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Roy Scott View Post
    Thats because you dont understand biomechanics. The achillies is a lever yes, but due to the loading of the arch and F = ma, (Newton’s 2nd Law) you get a reversal of this force during the propulsion.
    May I suggest that you take the time to read what Dr Lieberman has published? http://www.fas.harvard.edu/~skeleton/PDFList.html

    maybe this thing from his last study might be helpfull? Biomechanical Differences Between Different Foot Strikes

    or maybe this?
    Running Before The Modern Shoe

    Good read! :coollarge:
    Last edited by bfluc; 12-01-2011 at 06:50 AM. Reason: forgot something

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    Quote Originally Posted by Roy Scott View Post
    [...]Of course I accept that other areas of the footwear market are a rip off. However for the amount of material and manufacturing required to make a pair of Vibrams for example, its a new level of ripping people off and tearing the a** out of your hard earned money. They are essentialy socks with a minimal sole.
    Can we write that this is essentially how ***you see*** VFF?

    I wonder why standard trainers shoes that are leaving the foot in a state ***I*** would describe as atrophy wouldn't be a big time rip off as VFFs are?

    Quote Originally Posted by Wikipedia
    Atrophy is the partial or complete wasting away of a part of the body. Causes of atrophy include mutations (which can destroy the gene to build up the organ), poor nourishment, poor circulation, loss of hormonal support, loss of nerve supply to the target organ, disuse or lack of exercise or disease intrinsic to the tissue itself
    I look at my old good trainers I was using when I trained for my 1st and see that they were made in China (the only thing I miss about those is that when I was training in it I had not to deal with lotta comments in the not virtual life or replies on forum's that are basically relying on logical fallacies in order to prove that I must be wrong).

    Even my Mizuno's and Asics' racer flats are made in China. Would you say that the manufacturing costs are playing a large role in the cost that they selling it to us? Would you say that the manufacturing cost of most of the outdoor gear we're using is close to the suggested retail price?

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    Re: :D Barefoot Running

    Just seen this on the Accelerate website

    http://www.accelerateuk.com/magazine...ning-yes-or-no

    Bare Foot running

    For the first time in 2011 Accelerate have become involved in the Sheffield Adventure Film Festival (ShAFF) and in February are to host an 'Expert Running Night'. Taking place at the Showroom Sheffield on the February the 11th, Accelerate with help from Industry leaders will be looking at Natural Running, so what's all the fuss about and what will we be asking?

    So Should you throw away your running shoes and go Bare Foot?

    The running shoe market is a worldwide billion £ industry and in the last few years has been rocked by claims that the modern day running shoe is in fact bad for you. The claims have been around formany years but dramatically highlighted since the publication of the book ‘Born to Run’, which examines a Mexican tribe who run without modern shoes, using,only what can be described, as sandals. Not unlike the Kenyans and the Ethiopians, of which many a runner has gone on to become a household name.

    Educational Institutions across the globe, running enthusiasts and sports scientists are starting to produce more and more studies that demonstrate that over engineered running shoes are actually causing more problems than they solve. Some of the other evidence is anecdotal, others from those that have tried hi-tec footwear and then gone back to basics, including running barefoot. Yet, it would appear there must be some weight to these arguments as leading brands of specialised running shoes are beginning to look at their ranges and introduce shoes that offer less structure and more minimalism. Simply, less is more.

    For one British manufacturer this is nothing new. Inov-8, based near Durham have for many years been advocating the virtues of ‘natural running’ for the fell athlete. In fact you could argue this has always been the case, since the beginning of early fell-shoemanufacture. Original fell shoes offered foot protection from the ground, grip and if you were lucky a little comfort! Inov-8 have revolutionised fell running shoes, winning many design awards along the way. So the next step in the evolution for Inov-8is a more natural shoe for road runners. Minimalist shoes, as they are now, in general, being called, are on there way.

    Infact for leading specialist and global manufacturer Saucony, they are already here. Your average running shoes normally weigh in at a good 350 grams, whilst the new minimalist offering is a mere, 220 grams with plans to drop yet moreweight. So can this type of shoe, which inthe past so many have said should be left to the elite and racing whippets ofthe World, be of benefit to the ordinary runner?

    Simply these shoes are all designed to allow the body to be more natural whilst running, to become stronger and if the research and claims of the pundits is correct to ultimately reduce injury. Yet since when has running on three foot of tarmac, rubble and crushed stone been,well, ‘natural’? Surely we need technical running shoes to help us survive the impact and resultingstresses? If we are running off-road,what about all those sharp rocks and the damage we will cause to ourselves hurtling down a hillside? So how is a minimalist shoe different and is there benefit?

    These questions and more will be raised at a Running Expert Night on the 11th February. Part of the Sheffield Adventure Film Festival, the evening will be hosted by leading Sheffield based running Store, Accelerate. Guest speakers will include leading Bio Mechanist Colin Papworth, Saucony’s Paul Heywood and Key-speaker Matt Brown, part of thedesign team at Inov-8. The pro’s and cons of barefoot and minimalist running will be explored along with why the manufactures have taken the plunge. Is it research based or just hype and following the herd?

    Date:Friday 11th February, 8pm.

    Venue: The Showroom, Sheffield, Showroom 4.

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    Re: :D Barefoot Running

    Change to the guest speaker line-up... yours truly will now be on stage for a brief appearance... gulp!

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    First run in the Inov8 ‘Bare-Grips’ – Absolutely fantastic…
    First impressions – a snug yet roomy ‘where it counts’ fit, superb terrain sensitivity yet with excellent foreign object protection, the grip was beyond belief and the overall feeling of ‘running free’ without compare!
    If you are a committed minimal shoe fell runner then this could well be the best shoe you have ever worn. If you are someone who has started on the path of minimal shoe fell running and are gradually reducing the cushioning on your shoes then this is the shoe to aim for.
    Time will tell if the superb grip holds up – if it does then yes the Inov8 Bare-Grip 200 is worth the extra money, well for me and my running anyway!
    Brilliant 

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    (A few) Japanese monks run for 1000 days wearing home-made straw sandals. More HERE.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Alphin View Post
    First run in the Inov8 ‘Bare-Grips’ – Absolutely fantastic…
    First impressions – a snug yet roomy ‘where it counts’ fit, superb terrain sensitivity yet with excellent foreign object protection, the grip was beyond belief and the overall feeling of ‘running free’ without compare!
    If you are a committed minimal shoe fell runner then this could well be the best shoe you have ever worn. If you are someone who has started on the path of minimal shoe fell running and are gradually reducing the cushioning on your shoes then this is the shoe to aim for.
    Time will tell if the superb grip holds up – if it does then yes the Inov8 Bare-Grip 200 is worth the extra money, well for me and my running anyway!
    Brilliant 
    Where and how? I thought they werent out until March. Have I missed something as I have been awaiting their arrival with great excitement which would appear to be justified from your post.

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