Fellsman

[egor]

check out the note on fellsman site http://www.fellsman.org.uk/doku.php, the reaction of the person concerned seems as concerning

[Muddy Retriever]

check out the note on fellsman site http://www.fellsman.org.uk/doku.php, the reaction of the person concerned seems as concerning

I agree. Seems completely unnecessary to do it as well. In the end I believe there were places for people to enter (as themselves) on the day.

[Antisocial]

Haven't seen a 2011 thread on this anyone doing it - am seriiously considering this year but have no idea of training I should be doinfg , what races to pre enter etc. Any thoughts

[Rodders]

I'm up for this with the delightful Mick too.

[egor]

ive entered again, training wise, id be interesting to see what other people do, ive got 3 p's, wadsworth trog and haworth hobble (hopefully) lined up and reccies of the night section bits. last year, it wasnt so much the running/ascent that got me, it was the eating/hydration, getting that right, was throwing up at 12o'clock night time on some dark moor that i cant recall.

[Muddy Retriever]

Haven't seen a 2011 thread on this anyone doing it - am seriiously considering this year but have no idea of training I should be doinfg , what races to pre enter etc. Any thoughts

I did it for the first time last year and I'm thinking of having another crack at it. Last year I didn't do much more than my 3 Peaks training - I mainly did LDWA events. I think the furthest I ran was 29 miles. Mind you that probably explains my rather slow time. Despite this I enjoyed it a lot more than I thought I would.

[philt1]

doing the Fellsman for the first time this year, application went in on Monday...planning on doing a few of the LDWA events as well as the 3 peaks route and the High Peak Marathon route.. all in preperation for my first 100 UTLD..

[Stolly]

ive entered again, training wise, id be interesting to see what other people do, ive got 3 p's, wadsworth trog and haworth hobble (hopefully) lined up and reccies of the night section bits. last year, it wasnt so much the running/ascent that got me, it was the eating/hydration, getting that right, was throwing up at 12o'clock night time on some dark moor that i cant recall.

I'm not sure that pure fell races help with the fellsman. Doing something nutty like the high peak marathon first helps though. When I first did the fellsman, I wasn't at all sure I could do the distance but knew I could do 24 miles over the 3 peaks. I drew consolation from that that 30 miles was therefore 'easy peasy' so felt that just a little more effort and drive would get me round the HPM (circa 40 to 42 miles depending on how much blundering around in the dark you do). Then having successfully got the HPM under my belt, doing the 60 or so miles of the fellsman was at least psychologically achievable. From experience, having done both twice, I can't discern much difference in my mind of how I felt during the last 10 miles over Kinder into Edale on the HPM and the last 15 miles of the Fellsman hacking up Buckden Pike and Great Whernside. They're both tough as aresholes .

The other advantage of the HPM, or at least the HPM route, is that it chucks plenty of bogs and groughs at you; grand practice for the groughs and bogs of Fleet Moss and Middle Tongue on the Fellsman. Finally although the fellsman isn't stupidly high, given the distance (11,000 odd feet of ascent/descent all in) it throws half of that at you in the first 13.5 miles as you do three peaks back to back - Ingleborough, Whernside and Gragareth. I tend to find that my legs are totally shot by the time I get to Stonehouse, something like 27 miles in, but after a long and drawn out bumble up Great Knoutberry amazingly they start to recover and I can finish the race without noticeably getting to feel any worse (or noticeably any better to be fair).

So best training for me is long days out in and around the peaks of the Dales with Pen y Ghent, Whernside, Ingleborough, Gragareth, Great Comb and Blea Moor being my preferred yomping grounds. I'm up for it again this year by the way

[Hank]

I found the doing the Lyke Wake Walk route was a great bit of training last year. 42 miles, but not too much climb (5500ft, I think). It's linear though, so you'll need transport sorting at the end. Good time on your feet and the terrain is quite similar in parts, complete with a mini Fleet Moss section of bog and grough!

[Hank]

Finally although the fellsman isn't stupidly high, given the distance (11,000 odd feet of ascent/descent all in) it throws half of that at you in the first 13.5 miles as you do three peaks back to back - Ingleborough, Whernside and Gragareth. I tend to find that my legs are totally shot by the time I get to Stonehouse, something like 27 miles in, but after a long and drawn out bumble up Great Knoutberry amazingly they start to recover and I can finish the race without noticeably getting to feel any worse (or noticeably any better to be fair).

This is exactly what happened to me last year! Went off too quick over the first climbs, including charging down off Ingleborough and niggling my ITB, and felt like jacking it in by the time I got to Stonehouse. In fact, I'm not sure how or why I even left Stonehouse, but I did, and the second half of the event was much more enjoyable. I'd go as far as saying that I actually felt better at 50 miles than at 20.