Even us in our early 30's remember the late 80's..when I first moved to Sheffield we were quite poor and hovered around the bottom end of the league.Originally Posted by ajohns352000
Our season was often beating Liverpool because that was as good as it got.
I remember those boxing day games against Liverpool too. Always seemed to be boxing day at Anfield didnt it? Celebrations went on for oh what - 2 days, but Liverpool were always the ones laughing come May
[QUOTE=ajohns352000;405857]there are a lot of Man U fans like me in their 40's who understand exactly what you mean. The 1970's and 1980's were pretty barren years for us and continually living in the shadow of Liverpool was painful. City were the better team yesterday and I also hope they go on to win it. But therein lies the issue. You are celebrating like you have won something. You havent. You won a local derby which the rest of the football world will scarcely even notice. The record books will show nothing if you fail to win the final and more to the point if you continually benchmark success against the occasional times you beat us the blues will have progressed nowhere (if the semi is so much bigger than the final). We still have the Premiership and Champions League in play. Wouldnt it be great if all 3 major trophies resided in Manchester? I hope it happens - do you??[/QUOTE]
Not with you on that last point AJ, I'm all for one of the trophies ending up in Stoke. I too remember the darker days, but at least they were brightened up by the odd FA Cup/ECWC final win. Enjoy your week City, then leave the rest of the season to us.
In all seriousness i genuinely believe United could do with a period without any success to rid itself of the dickheads that now follow it.
I'm serious. I'd love to see them go back cap in hand to their core support after all the prawn sandwich munchers and out of towners have ditched them when the going gets tough.
Thing is, most of the decent reds I know are out of the habit of putting their hands in their pockets and braving sh*te weather to go and support their team, so they'll take some convincing to start going again.
Wonder if they'd cope with sharing a City with a very successful team whilst winning bugger all themselves for years with the same grace and humour as we have? I think I know the answer to that one.
In some ways i agree danbert. It would probably be good for football, but if united fade then you'll prob find chelsea taking over the reigns. Problem is no other bugger has taken advantage of our relatively poor play this season, so if we take the title, there cant be much complaint.a few years ago i gave up my season ticket, one i couldnt afford it and two the way the fans are stung makes me sick, whilst the top players take the p**s.
Dont want to get sucked into a MEN comments page tit for tat, hope we win tonight, and you lose at the weekend. Thats cos its in my blood and i'm sure you think the same...but with grace and humour;-)
I do to be honest - In my experience, the "thoughtful" United fans are the older ones who remember when they were a piss poor team and know what its like to flounder mid table or get relegated.
Its the generation of younger United fans who have grown up knowing nothing other than success that i'm not so keen on. They think success is a birthright to them, and they think that by default they will win something big over a season, and it will always be that way. A bad season for them is only one trophy, or second in the prem.
When i lock horns with these dicks, i point out that they are not football supporters, they know nothing about the game, because the game is not just winning all the time, the game is winning AND losing, its following your team through shit and shitter, seeing the humour in your situation, and living with your failures way more than any of your successes. And the successes you do get, you really appreciate.
ajohns, don't believe what you read danbert has written. he is a RED, no doubt. he is making mischief. i KNOW THIS TO BE A FACT.
but answer to your question, 3 major trophies would not be good for manchester, unless in our cabinet.
This Carlos the Jackal speaks a lot of sense. DANBERT IS A RED!
Actually, I've just found a picture of Danbert on my PC:
I first supported Burnley when my Dad took me over on the bus from the Railway in Stacksteads and then on the back of his motorbike. Peter Noble, Leighton James and Martin Dobson were my heroes at the time and Leighton used to live up the road from me when I was 6 - 10 years old and he would have a kick about with us.
I used to listen to the bile even then between particularly the Leeds fans and the Man Utd fans and never quite got it.
I now see a lot of mates I grew up with and they are Liverpool fans. They haven't a scouse bone in their body, but of course the late 70s and 80s drew in a lot of supports from outside - you should try flying in and out of Liverpool airport when there's a match at Anfield - it's absolutely full of Scandanavians.
I still support Burnley - I have rarely been to a match in the last 10 years as I'm full on in to the athletics now and if not running at weekend I team manage, or coach.
But I'm still Burnley through and through.
But I also have an appreciation for other football teams. The great teams at Liverpool, my favourite was the team that included John Barnes as they played some great football. Man Utd have had some fantastic teams and the FA Cup semi against Arsenal where Giggs scored his screamer has to be one of the best games of football I've ever seen.
The Michael Thomas goal for Arsenal against Liverpool to win the title with the last kick of the season - unbelievable.
I can appreciate all that - these events have international wide reaching resonance.
I am sure that if Clubs such as Man City, Spurs, Newcastle, Everton, Villa ever manage to get a run of success in a manner that inspires emotions as those events that I mentioned, they too will perhaps be elevated to the status of "Big Club" that they seem to crave so much.
In the meantime they will have to carry on with their "banter" which to me is often a form of inverted snobbery and be happy to be making up the numbers. If they ever arrive at the top level, I wonder if they will look at their new found fans and politely ask them to bu**er off or start bragging about how many followers they have worldwide?
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