I am finding it hard too Ratfink... Nights closing in, having to work late, doesn't help! So took the day off today for a mega ride in the Peaks, on the crosser, training for 3 peaks cx... It included an ascent of Winnatts in a gale force headwind blowing down the gorge :w00t: 4.4 km/hr, don't think yuo can go any slower than that without falling over