Quote Originally Posted by Witton Park View Post
It's not necessarily the manufacturers. I supply a UK brand with a waterproof snow boot that is marketed around Europe and Canada as waterproof butthe UK brand chose to call it water resistant as it cuts down the amount of returns from mail order and internet sales.

My first waterproofs / windproofs when I took up fell running were from Outdoor Action and were £20 for the jacket and £15 for the pants. Taped seams, waterproof.

As such they were also windproof.

I personally wouldn't touch windproof - you get wet in them and you freeze.

There's plenty of waterproof options about for any budget - if you can't be bothered, don't turn up at a fell race.

I've since moved on to a Berghaus waterproof jacket that packs well and is comfortable to race in - I've ran a few races in it from start to finish. Still use the same trousers though.
I am surprised at how warm my windproof Montane top keeps me - despite being "wet". Even in waterproof kit you get wet eventually - even if it is just from sweat - but if you can keep the wind off it stops evaporation which helps to stop you getting cold. The Montane top is much more packable than the Haglofs Oz I use when waterproof is needed, though the latter is undoubtedly superior when out for a long time. My partner had a MacPac - not clear if it was the same type - fell to pieces in no time.