Quote Originally Posted by alwaysinjured View Post

Then ( it is a bit damp crossing the valley: you could shorten this by crosing more straight W) - first aim for the remains of a sheep fold? stones? you see at 301285 dont try and climb too high too quickly now, because you dont want to drop into roughten gill: I think I crossed sinen gill at about 303283 where there is a trod which takes you round to roughten gill. Aim to cross roughten gill at just above stream junction 311279 then dead reckon the summit from there.
Looks like an interesting route, too late to reccie now, but would I need water wings tonight on the Gill crossings