Iain - you seem to be assuming that these EA qualifications are meant to be for people to take people out on mountains, but they are not - they are coaching qualifications to instruct on technique, development...

It would be like taking the driving test for F1 - it's not appropriate and not meant to be appropriate.

By the way I think Graeme is away - he certainly has been away.

I'm not sure why you seem to have a beef with EA.