Karen, I've got my fingers crossed for you. The same goes for everyone else for whom participation is looking marginal. For all those who definitely can't, get well soon.

I've been riveted by the route choice suggestions across the new section. I've not done it before but what I was planning to do has been well confirmed. I knew that there was a good line along the N Easterly wall to Gilbert Lane because we used to cross that to go through a hand gate in the wall on the last but one route, when the Hell Gap checkpoint really was at Hell Gap. Then it moved to Stake Moss. Now it's at Grey Horse.

Stolly, dont climb up to the top fence line like you were suggesting. That's back onto the old route on the watershed and right into the thick of the bogs and hags.