Brilliant. It must be several minutes since we had a photo of a sheepdog peering into the middle distance from the top of Pen Y Ghent on this here forum :closed:Originally Posted by Stolly
Thanks. Fantastic news
Brilliant. It must be several minutes since we had a photo of a sheepdog peering into the middle distance from the top of Pen Y Ghent on this here forum :closed:Thanks. Fantastic news
Poacher turned game-keeper
Excellent post Ian, I learnt something new from that. I was aware that direct heat was a no no, but had no idea why until you explained it (also explains some odd episodes after warming up after winter runs as well). I take it the idea is to get the body to heat itself up as much as is possible whilst keeping wrapped up etc, rather than warming the person up artificially (so to speak)?Well done and good call Stolly, and of course top effort from Hes and all those who made it round or nearly made it round.
A bit shocked at the Hot water bottle!! not exactly the gold standard treatment for a hypothermic person.
Dry clothes, sleeping bag, shelter, warm sweet drink but NOT DIRECT HEAT TO THE BODY SURFACE! surprised the doc didn't take it away how ever well meaning it was. Part of the process of Hypothermia is to take your blood to the core to protect your vital organs(this is why H victims go white and lips go blue etc) applying direct heat will cause the warm blood from your core to come to your skin flooding your core with colder blood and can put you in to shock.
I'm sure forumite DATT won't mind me mentioning that after falling in a deep bog on bleaklow during a Tankys Trog Race he got very cold and like Stolly made the good call to pack it in. He got himself to the Snake Inn where he called for a lift. in the mean time a cold Datt sat in front of the roaring fire where according to the bar staff he went a very strange colour! and they ran out to the MR parked in the carpark, Luckily it had a paramedic and a doc on board who took him away from the fire and put him in a cas bag BUT he was close to S3 Hypothermia and they were on the verge of calling in an Air ambulance. Warm Slowly not quickly!
Good to hear you are ok Stolly
I've long thought that we ought to have a thread on treatment of Hypothermia. It's probably the biggest problem we can face in the mountains.
Haha. You (well when I say "you" I really mean I) can never have too many pictures of Harry. Nowadays I'm less likely to post them here though but make up in spades by posting millions of them on facebook. Lucky facebook friends eh?
Hi dmd - I have just joined the FRA forum to ask if you would be interested in a walker's perspective on this weekend's Fellsman RACE (strange, i thought it used to be a HIKE) and would allow me to contact you by email rather than clog up the FRA forum?
Interesting to read all the posts and have time for a good think. I don't think I was irresponsible setting off with a dodgy ankle as I had strapped it very solidly and as prepared to stop at an early road checkpoint if need be. If there had been a reserve list I would probably have give up my place- just in case. I do feel bad that I did not carry enough gear. I should have spent longer oputside on sat am in Threshfield to realise how chilly it was. It would be a pain for the organisers but the option of taking an extra layer or 2 to Ingleton and then throwing a small carrier bag in back of a van with our race number on it if we decided it was too much at 8.45 might be an option?
I tried to eat lots and still struggled to keep warm after dusk and I know that I relied on oters after grouping to make most/ all decisions. I need to buy and take some better gloves and should have been prepared to get my compass out and use it. Without them I would have either taken lots longer or had to bail out.
We also saw a group that we felt were not looking after each other and using the 'grouping' in the way it is intended to keep everyone safe. Fortunately there were two 'falling off the back' and they sort of looked out for each other. JUst so glad my group were supportive, caring and good to be with.
You should post here, it would be interesting to read a walkers perspective
I have PM'ed you with my email address. We stopped calling it a hike some years ago, but actually we don't call it a race either. It's the fellrunners that call it a race. We call it an event, and we have entrants rather than hikers.
I call it an 'epic adventure' now I'm safely home and I can't repeat what I would have called it when I was up at the summit of Great Whernside in the early hours of Sunday morning!:wink:
I am currently nursing 2 swollen feet - must be due to the extreme cold and the length of time that they were so cold and numb? Anyway, if anyone came across a haglof smock coat back at Upper Wharfedale School, just past the finishing table then its mine. It is a very dark grey colour with bright green edging to it. it will also have a few smashed up bourbon biscuits in the pocket! I am going to e-mail the organisers too, although I realise they will have enough on at the moment, its still worth a shot.
Well done on getting round Cath. Bet it was good to get your own shower and real bed on Sat/ Sun night! I thought 'd crash out on SH floor and be tired enough but struggled to sleep.
My feet (mainly toes are also red, waxy and swollen- )
but then so is my ankle and about 8 inches up my L leg
at least my eyes are no longer red and bloodshot and I can see clearly again!
Things we do for pleasure hey
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