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    Wow, just caught up. This thread is almost more epic than the event was. There are so many interesting and valid comments from all sides. One comment I must make: Suzanne is the dog's whatsits and can do no wrong in my eyes. She made the right decision, period. Everyone was safe and warm before the rain compounded the problems caused by the cold and gale.

    I probably experienced the worst of the conditions on Buckden Pike and Great Whernside and felt comfortable throughout, but experience tells me that it's a fine balance between too much clothing causing sweating and chilling, and too little causing chilling. Too much clothing can be worse than too little in my experience. I had it about right. It's too easy to have too many layers on the torso and not enough on the extremities. Just one short-sleeved shirt can tip the balance and ruin it for you. For the record I wore one NikePro T-shirt baselayer (no warmth, for anti-chafing more than anything), one Craft ribbed long-sleeved winter baselayer and windproof waterproof breathable jacket with hood. That's it. (I did have another thicker long-sleeved layer in my backpack, which I did not need.) I wore tights and windproof bottoms (not often I have to cover the leggies). On the extremities I wore thin silk gloves and a thicker pair on top. (I had an even thicker pair of waterproof mittens my backpack, which I did not need.) On my head I wore a warm hat with Buff on top of that, headscarfe stylie. The coat hood on top of that lot pulled up tight kept me feeling just right. Don't overdo the torso but take care of the extremities. It works.

    Dogbreath, we must have caught up with your group at Capplestone Gate and you must have re-overtaken us yards before the finish. I thought your team mate who was going in the opposite direction shortly before the checkpoint was a marshal. I asked him if he was and he replied no, he had lost his group and was looking for them. I realised subsequently that he can't have been thinking straight. I'm glad that the marshal who went after him shortly afterwards (we had to shout inches within each other's ears to make ourselves heard) was able to find him and get him to safety.

    protodoc, it was a pleasure to meet you at the start and at Hill Inn. See you next year as an entrant.

    Karen, great to see you at the start dressed for business, and what a successful outcome on that ankle - third place! :thumbup: I hope the lack of discomfort during has translated into steady recovery afterwards.

    There was a couple of references to my report. Here it is, just updated with over 100 photographs linked.

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    Karen also made some terrible mistakes re amount of kit she took. She knew in Ingleton it was a mistake but could do nothing at that stage. She then failed to put enough on until too late. She was very very lucky with her grouping and owes them her completion. Grouped with others in the very very cold state she was in she would have been out longer and struggling. Lessons have been leaned. Not the first time I have been cold (too cold to function well despite putting all layers on and eating lots) Lowther OMM, Hardmoors55 in 2010... I'm almost tempted to say I must have a guardian angel watching over me- but I'm not religious and it would probably be tempting fate. In the words of a work colleague who knows me well ' i'm just too pig headed..." I haven't said much on this forum since the Fellsman and I guess it is a combination of guilt at not carrying enough gear, my reliance on others in my grouping/ luck.....
    One idea- perhaps we could take a carrier bag with our race number on with a few extras on the bus and then just hurl what we believe is surplus into a van to go back to the finish? no great checking in process just some trust that it will all be in the QM store on Sunday
    Last edited by karen nash; 02-05-2012 at 07:27 AM. Reason: typo

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    Quote Originally Posted by BritNick View Post
    Dogbreath, we must have caught up with your group at Capplestone Gate and you must have re-overtaken us yards before the finish. I thought your team mate who was going in the opposite direction shortly before the checkpoint was a marshal. I asked him if he was and he replied no, he had lost his group and was looking for them. I realised subsequently that he can't have been thinking straight. I'm glad that the marshal who went after him shortly afterwards (we had to shout inches within each other's ears to make ourselves heard) was able to find him and get him to safety.
    Hi Nick, yes you did come through Capplestone while we were waiting there. It was strange, but 900 metres before Capplestone there is a stile/gate and we all regrouped there before continuing to the checkpoint. We were never THAT far apart, and although he was always at the back, we never had to wait more than 15-20 seconds for him when we regrouped. We always said to each other 'everyone alright' to which the answer was always 'yes' and we continued on the 10 minute walk to the CP. We were surprised when he was not with us and we went back out for 100 yards to see if we could see his light coming over the rise before the CP. We then saw your lights, and maybe you saw ours shining towards you. We couldn't understand how he had not been able to follow us the the relatively short distance, or tag onto your group when you came through. As you say, it was hopeless trying to shout to him as the wind was too fierce.

    I think I did pass you just going through Grassington and it was only at that point that I began to warm up. I'll have a read of your blog and look at your photos in the next few days. It's too late now and I'm off to bed.

    Cheers

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    Quote Originally Posted by jpd View Post
    I don't know how many bus drivers they were but it certainly would have been a long night for them!
    Howdy
    Not including the Sweep team bus, there are 8 drivers, 4 buses. This is so that we can share the driving, which was a good call during the Fellsman this year.

    I hope you all don't mind me posting on here but I have a question for you.Just a little survey, as some may have noticed, depending on if you got a bus at any time or bumped into us around the course, the drivers wore fancy dress in celebration of this being the 50th Fellsman. Originally this was only for this special event ( which turned out to be more 'special' than expected), however it went down quite well with many entrants and brought a tired smile to most faces. The question is would you like us to do it again, committee allowing.

    Thank you, Yeeha

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cubbev View Post
    Howdy
    Not including the Sweep team bus, there are 8 drivers, 4 buses. This is so that we can share the driving, which was a good call during the Fellsman this year.

    I hope you all don't mind me posting on here but I have a question for you.Just a little survey, as some may have noticed, depending on if you got a bus at any time or bumped into us around the course, the drivers wore fancy dress in celebration of this being the 50th Fellsman. Originally this was only for this special event ( which turned out to be more 'special' than expected), however it went down quite well with many entrants and brought a tired smile to most faces. The question is would you like us to do it again, committee allowing.

    Thank you, Yeeha
    not at all Cubbev and welcome to the forum.

    the HPM CP staff run a fancy dress competition every year. always makes me feel better in the snow at 4.00 in the morning...

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    Thank you, I did some fell running about 30 years ago, in the days when fell 'boots' were the thing to wear!!!! The thread is interesting to say the least and I agree that Suzanne is the 'dogs whats'its' not sure what she would make of that compliment though .

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    Hi cubbev the costumes put a smirk on my face , I've been on a couple of events that wear fancy dress eg smuggler trod all dress like pirates and wenches which lifts the male spirits at least ;-) I think it lightens the mood abit . Although the checkpoints wouldve had to dress up as eskimo's on them tops
    At weekend !

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cubbev View Post
    Howdy
    Not including the Sweep team bus, there are 8 drivers, 4 buses. This is so that we can share the driving, which was a good call during the Fellsman this year.

    I hope you all don't mind me posting on here but I have a question for you.Just a little survey, as some may have noticed, depending on if you got a bus at any time or bumped into us around the course, the drivers wore fancy dress in celebration of this being the 50th Fellsman. Originally this was only for this special event ( which turned out to be more 'special' than expected), however it went down quite well with many entrants and brought a tired smile to most faces. The question is would you like us to do it again, committee allowing.

    Thank you, Yeeha

    From your "yeeha", I take it you are the cowboy I saw at the Hill Inn checkpoint? I think fancy dress is a great idea, the stonehouse CP staff dress as Mexicans already!

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    Quote Originally Posted by protodoc View Post
    The stonehouse CP staff dress as Mexicans already!
    This year they were M*A*S*H - very entertaining.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DinoF View Post
    This year they were M*A*S*H - very entertaining.
    Ah, that makes sense now. I thought it was an odd scout uniform!

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