Are Park Runs Destructive ?

[sevendaughters]

Interesting - power of 10 now quote parkruns separately, i.e. They don't count as 5k's on po10. This includes past results. Would love to know what the thinking is behind this change.

thought I was the only person to notice this, now according to RB I haven't run a 5k this year because I've run only parkrun and two events that didn't have UKA licences!

[Rasher]

It's about time they got their finger out and included fell races on the results, shame about the parkrun times though.

My friend's daughter is a junior international and her 5K PB of 18.20 has been wiped from the 5K rankings through this.

It's useful as a reference tool to show all of your results in one place; that's the only thing I use Power of 10 for.

[Danbert Nocurry]

Look at this - Link to www.greatrunlocal.org

Nova International (Great Manchester/North/and other rip off event organisers) are competing (?) with Parkrun now.

[Danbert Nocurry]

PS - Isn't this the Sale Sizzler Course?

http://www.greatrun.org/app_files/gr_files/Great-Run-Local-Manchester-Wythenshawe-5km-Course-Map.pdf


If it is and i'm sure it is, It's a lot faster than the Parkrun course.



Here's a link to register - it's a complete Parkrun copy - but so what, it's free and it looks good :w00t:




PPS - The Debdale Park course looks to be a cracking little course too.





:thumbup:

[sevendaughters]

Ha! It's the exact same course, right down to the finish at 200m on the track.

[Multiterrainer]

Look at this - Link to www.greatrunlocal.org

Nova International (Great Manchester/North/and other rip off event organisers) are competing (?) with Parkrun now.

"Great Run Local is an exciting new journey for runners of all abilities...."

Yeah right!!

Seems to me the only difference to Parkrun, apart from being a Sunday event, is the choice of 2 distances.

[OB1]

PS - Witton will know more about this but there might be an issue with measured versus certified.

Apparently anything that is measured is said to have an error (for arguement's sake say plus or minus 0.05km). What a certified course does however is add in a correction factor (in this case 0.05km) so that the "real" distance is 5.00km-5.10km rather than 4.95km-5.05km.

A course certifier will use one of those wheel things and ensure that the course is measured via the shortest route. Therefore nobody (in theory) can run the race in anything less than 5.00km. I guess this is why "certified" courses are often called "long" by runners...it is just the nature of certified road races...

God knows how the old Radcliffe 5K was ever certified though

Interesting development indeed in the last week (well online at least).

I agree, in theory.
But then for examples sake, there is an athelete (a local club runner and England Athletics registered athlete) who regularly and knowingly cuts inside the course marker corner flags at Marple Parkrun, and yet he/she is second in the age group course rankings for his/her age group. And being a X-country style course there are quite a few such flags at Marple, not all marshaled. It would be relatively harmless if a back-packer, but in the 75%+ age grade category it raises eyebrows. So maybe these Parkrun 'time trials' are indirectly fostering a destructive laissez faire attitude in us runners that needs to be clamped down on hard, before it gets out of control!?
:w00t:

[Roadrunner]

I think this isn't the first time the Great Run have held such events. Are they not just in the build up to the Great run series in Manchester and not being staged all year long?

[LissaJous]

But then for examples sake, there is an athelete (a local club runner and England Athletics registered athlete) who regularly and knowingly cuts inside the course marker corner flags at Marple Parkrun, and yet he/she is second in the age group course rankings for his/her age group. And being a X-country style course there are quite a few such flags at Marple, not all marshaled. It would be relatively harmless if a back-packer, but in the 75%+ age grade category it raises eyebrows.

The thing is, it is no longer very obvious to outsiders whether Marple is 5K official, 5KNAD or 5KMT...

Parkrun have already had to remove dog-assisted times from top places.. there must have been some tension with UKA/Powerof10 over that. And there are sometimes results which can only be expained by runners missing a lap out altogether.. I have seen 100% age-category records in both cases, the former now (or was?) banished from Pof10, with the race results list starting at 2nd place!

I propose a new category. 5K-too-early-in-morning!

[LissaJous]

Official parkrun announcement here
Including:

The decision to backdate the classification of all previous parkrun events was taken because we believe that the consistency of the Power of 10 ranking system is important and we were determined that no previous rankings would be lost, simply re-classified from 5K to parkrun.

My emphasis. B***ards!