BGR in more than 24 hours?

[Craghopper]

"A proper go!" Ha ha. That made me smile.

Apologies if I've misinterpreted your comment, (it might well have been light-hearted) but I presume you are only meaning that a solo unsupported round cannot be, by its very nature, ratified in the way that is required by the club for membership. Plus the start / finish point requirement.

I think that what Hanneke did was a magnificent achievement and is more in the spirit of the round than some other attempts. In some cases it takes less flags , ropes and Sherpas to get someone up Everest! (Please feel free to shoot this comment down in flames!) :-)

If it was me who had done what Hanneke did, (this is my opinion; I wouldn't dream of speaking on her, or anyone else's, behalf) I wouldn't have thought there would be much to gain to do it all again within the "rules" just for the sake of membership of the club. However I understand why others might see this differently.


Also, with regards to the person who did it recently in 26+ hours, I still think that is a stunning achievement. And that not being able to get their certificate for a sub-24 hour is neither here nor there.

However I think it is useful to have the boundaries set for ratification, (I'm enjoying the GPS tracking debate) but people shouldn't get too hung up about it if others want to do their own thing.

Im sorry, I didnt mean to cause any offence. What I meant was I hope Hannekes ankle gets better so that she can have another go starting from the moot hall and get her Bob Graham formerly acknolwedged. No question that what she has done is a big thing, but not a Bob Graham i think.

[Harry H Howgill]

Im sorry, I didnt mean to cause any offence. What I meant was I hope Hannekes ankle gets better so that she can have another go starting from the moot hall and get her Bob Graham formerly acknolwedged. No question that what she has done is a big thing, but not a Bob Graham i think.

No, no, you haven't in the slightest.

It has been an interesting debate. I agree that doing the BG round is to do the route from Moot Hall, but to complete the "challenge" it must be done in the 24 hour time limit. Plus ratification etc etc.

all the best

Alastair

[Hanneke]

No, it won't... I have become a cyclist in stead so all is good, still getting out in the hills, but on two wheels now

I don't mind what people think it was, it was a BGR recce that turned out to include the whole circuit and completed in under 24 hours... so for my personal satisfaction, it works

I have contemplated walking it and see if I can walk it in 24 hours, but whenever I do a reasonable amount of descending, even walking, the ankle plays up too much... Practically, I am missing the anterior talo-fibular ligament, which is crucial in stabilising the ankle...

Hannke, I'd say what you did was a very decent circiut of 42 lakes tops in a good time but not a Bob Graham round. Sorry about your ankle, will it get better so you can give it a proper go?

Mike

[Hanneke]

Thanks HHH

It was an awesome time out in the hills... I always was intent on doing what I called a 'double solo' with a friend and his wife doing some basic road crossing support, witnessing each others summits, as we didn't feel like setting up a whole train of support and followers. The idea was to get perpared and when both ready, just choose a day when conditions were ideal and go for it. When I got to Keswick after leg 3, 4 and 5 I felt good, so decided to do leg 1 as well, when I got to Threlkeld I was feeling ok, so thought: what the heck, I can always bivvy out if I get too tired and continued.

As it stands, I found conditions ideal when recce-ing and went for it! I have to say it wasn't my longest run out in the hills, nor my toughest... and I have gone on to do tougher endurance MTB/CX events...

And no, it wasn't a 'proper go' I certainly have never said that I have completed/done a BGR and I have never had the desire to have a proper go either, after that, apart from proving that it 'is only a long walk'

"A proper go!" Ha ha. That made me smile.

Apologies if I've misinterpreted your comment, (it might well have been light-hearted) but I presume you are only meaning that a solo unsupported round cannot be, by its very nature, ratified in the way that is required by the club for membership. Plus the start / finish point requirement.

I think that what Hanneke did was a magnificent achievement and is more in the spirit of the round than some other attempts. In some cases it takes less flags , ropes and Sherpas to get someone up Everest! (Please feel free to shoot this comment down in flames!) :-)

If it was me who had done what Hanneke did, (this is my opinion; I wouldn't dream of speaking on her, or anyone else's, behalf) I wouldn't have thought there would be much to gain to do it all again within the "rules" just for the sake of membership of the club. However I understand why others might see this differently.


Also, with regards to the person who did it recently in 26+ hours, I still think that is a stunning achievement. And that not being able to get their certificate for a sub-24 hour is neither here nor there.

However I think it is useful to have the boundaries set for ratification, (I'm enjoying the GPS tracking debate) but people shouldn't get too hung up about it if others want to do their own thing.

[karen nash]

Hanneke- I think your attitude is spot on. You know what you have done and perhaps that is what matters most (it would to me). I quite fancy a go but do not like the idea of teams of people either on the route or even at the road crossings if it is going to be more work in the planning than it is in the running. Given all the erosion issues etc and how 'famous' it has become I might just find other challenges anyway.

[Martyn P]

........I certainly have never said that I have completed/done a BGR and I have never had the desire to have a proper go either, after that, apart from proving that it 'is only a long walk'

For most normal mortals - and I definitely include myself as a poor example of just that - it's significantly more than "a long walk".

[Derby Tup]

A BGR race walk would be interesting. I don't think many folk outside of maybe the top 10 or 20 % of long fell race fields would have any chance of walking a BGR in under 24 hours :closed:

[Derby Tup]

Incidentally (I'm not sure if this is closer to topic or further away) we met a couple on top of Skiddaw on Saturday lunch-time who were doing a 6 day walking BGR complete with big ruck-sacks

[Hanneke]

Thanks Karen

My friend and I also thought that, hence the initial idea of a 'double solo' with minimal support... In the end it transpired that with the right conditions at the right time, it can be done alone. I have to say that I had actually never been over leg 4 before that day either. I had recced 1 and 3 and 5 in both directions and 2 in one direction, but not starting in Threlkeld... I had the Harveys map with me though and nav was easy as conditions were clear. Having set out initially to do leg 3 & 4, then just ging on as I was feeling good really worked... no pressure, it was very relaxed... Got a little tense when I realised I was hitting the sub 24 hrs mark mind, thinking: now I really do want to make it

There are plenty of other challenges. For me, it is all about myself, my bike these days, and my surroundings, i.e. hills and mountains. I love bike bivvying, just go out in the hills on my own on the MTB and camp where takes my fancy I am thinking about an interesting endurance MTB challenge but haven't come up with one yet...

Hanneke- I think your attitude is spot on. You know what you have done and perhaps that is what matters most (it would to me). I quite fancy a go but do not like the idea of teams of people either on the route or even at the road crossings if it is going to be more work in the planning than it is in the running. Given all the erosion issues etc and how 'famous' it has become I might just find other challenges anyway.

[Hanneke]

A BGR race walk would be interesting. I don't think many folk outside of maybe the top 10 or 20 % of long fell race fields would have any chance of walking a BGR in under 24 hours :closed:

Yup fancy giving it a try?

My plans had been for last Xmas, to go out with rucksack, tent and food/drink and start walking at midnight on the 24th of December and finish by midnight the 25th. Alas, I ended up in A&E with complications from a MTB-ing injury, so it never happened. Idea was to see how far I would get and camp when/where needed