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    Yep, knee injury, that simplifies things for Sky then

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    Quote Originally Posted by Richard Head View Post
    Yep, knee injury, that simplifies things for Sky then
    Notwithstanding that I think Wiggins in a world/historical context is a grossly overrated rider by those on here who flaunt their Union flags; I have wondered for a while when he will retire.

    He is now a "national treasure" and nothing he does will enhance that status because, let's face it, who outside bike aficionados have heard of eg La Vuelta?

    He just isn't going to win another Grand Tour, unless they design another one for ex-track riders without any hills but lots of time trials, so what, £millionaire that he is, will get him out training on a cold, wet miserable February morning year after year?

    My older readers may remember Mr S. Roche, who also had his career wrecked by a knee problem, but it didn't stop the boy going after the money and signing for some rubbish teams because of the £££. But after his "triple" year he did nothing but enhance his bank balance.

    So Mr Wiggins: retire as a folk hero? Or a tawdry money grabber?

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    Extra cynical tonight Graham. Have you been listening to your Bob Dylan records again?
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    Multiple Olympic gold medalist and Tour de France winner. And he's English. Never thought I would see the day. He might not win again but his achievements must be acknowledged. I think your problem is he's too popular with people who don't understand cycling like you. You elitist. And fancy a professional sportsman wanting to make money. Like Greg Lemond?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Deadlegs View Post
    Multiple Olympic gold medalist and Tour de France winner. And he's English. Never thought I would see the day. He might not win again but his achievements must be acknowledged. I think your problem is he's too popular with people who don't understand cycling like you. You elitist. And fancy a professional sportsman wanting to make money. Like Greg Lemond?

    LeMond?

    Naive. A whiner. But one of the truly great riders and he changed the sport like no other rider did. Wiggins is a millionaire because of LeMond.

    (Although I still wish Fignon had won his 3rd Tour)

    And of course LeMond had the courage to name Armstrong for the cheat everyone in cycling knew that he was-unlike spineless Wiggins who just kept his head down on his way to the bank.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Derby Tup View Post
    Extra cynical tonight Graham. Have you been listening to your Bob Dylan records again?

    Nah! Yardbirds, early Elvis, Duane Eddy out-takes from his Jamie years which are really interesting to hear how the sax solos (either Jim Horn or Steve Douglas) vary from take to take.

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    [QUOTE=Graham Breeze;543196]LeMond?

    Naive. A whiner. But one of the truly great riders and he changed the sport like no other rider did. Wiggins is a millionaire because of LeMond.

    All true. First of the modern riders and last of the clean winners (apart from Sir B obviously). But still tried to win Paris - Roubaix. Respect. (Disagree about Fignon though he was a doper).

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    unless they design another one for ex-track riders without any hills but lots of time trials
    Thats an outragous observation Graham.
    *insert smiley face, oh i dunno. This one will do :wink:

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    Re: Giro

    Quote Originally Posted by Graham Breeze View Post
    He just isn't going to win another Grand Tour, unless they design another one for ex-track riders without any hills but lots of time trials, so what, £millionaire that he is, will get him out training on a cold, wet miserable February morning year after year?
    I agree with some aspects but you can rest assured the frogs didn't set out the 2012 route for a British track cyclist to win.

    Its the fact that Sir Dave plan the team with precession and they delivered.

    I think it will help Froome with the team but I can't see him winning.

    I think your mate the Cont will be back.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stagger View Post
    I agree with some aspects but you can rest assured the frogs didn't set out the 2012 route for a British track cyclist to win.

    I think your mate the Cont will be back.
    Maybe not, unlike the 2012 British Olympic organisers whose first two flat and hill-less designed-for-Wiggo-to-win-the Gold Medal courses were rejected by the Olympic Powers-that-be.

    However as a better commentator than me has written: whereas the Giro has always been a proper bike race (and so its organisers have kept going broke) the Tour has always been first and foremost a business: and it suits ASO for foreign riders to win because of the television rights revenues a foreign winner brings.

    As for my mate Contador: well he is the outstanding rider of this generation but like any winner he has to have the form at the right time and not fall off his bike.

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