Dave, your post really does (in my view at least) provide a good summary of the balanced view at this interlude in the thread's proceeedings. Your last paragraph on its own encapsulating the ambience shown on here (in my view at least). Maybe there is a different private ambience from those not participating on here? Especially maybe if they feel they have said everything they need to say via email? It is difficult to gauge. Where do we go from here though, before 01/01/2014? A group hug? A petition? A revolution? Nothing at all? What is the most appropriate way forward for the circumstance?

PS. I think in your second line where you say 'latter' you probably mean 'former' ('UKA' rather than 'fell running')? Minor point of clarification.