It's early days yet. Danbert knows he need to raise his game now.Originally Posted by IainR
It's early days yet. Danbert knows he need to raise his game now.
True Man U are playing tonight.. he should be on form..
Trouble is the big clubs scoop up all the talented youngsters and then dump most of them later. If the lower league clubs had a shot at bringing them through a lot more would be kept on and would get a chance to rise up through the leagues if they had the ability.
I'd rather have my kid watching the likes of Scholes.. playing at Carrington.. than in a quagmire in Rochdale.. lower leagues are still dominated by power.
They do hoover up, that is the Barca way, which works for Spain.. If the clubs, like WH and Saints, and Man U, have a history of playing young players kids will go there.. Chelsea have suffered with this. Arsenal haven't. I think most teams now look to their youth as financially they can't afford not to.. we have to have home grown players on benches.
I think I said "big clubs" not Man United
If people like you don't care about kids getting dumped (and there is a hell of a lot get dumped for every one that makes it to the first team) after being "groomed" by premiership clubs then its a good thing we have the lower leagues and non-league sides to pick up the mess they have left.
Anyway is that why united send kids to Bury ?
I see the Oirish gobshoite Keane has come out and said the Cloughie was a better manager than the Govan Piss Can. Now while there may be some bitterness in his reasoning, I too have always thought that this was the case.
OBE (Old Big 'Ead in Clough's own words) won the league title with two small provincial clubs and won the European Cup with one of them, Forest, a team full of rejects.
Let's be honest Iain - Bacon's succession is going the way of King Lear. It's only a matter of time until he's found wondering about naked in a storm, probably in Newton Heath, accompanied by Phil Neville in a jester's outfit.
Thats Neville Nevilles influence...I think I said "big clubs" not Man United
If people like you don't care about kids getting dumped (and there is a hell of a lot get dumped for every one that makes it to the first team) after being "groomed" by premiership clubs then its a good thing we have the lower leagues and non-league sides to pick up the mess they have left.
Anyway is that why united send kids to Bury ?
But yes the drop out rate is huge.. I watching Barca V Celtic Youth today in the Cl.. U19? I'd bet even at that level only 50% will make it.. i.e. the Barca team..
But it is huge. I had a mate at school, didnt do GCSE's as he was England youth.. every level.. thin even U21.. signed for Wednesday 1000 / week.. Danny wilson came in thought he was too small.. he ended up at Emley in teh non league next club and was out of football 18 months later. He's actually done well for himself, but not many will.. if you have a brain you dont do the YTS sort of schemes..
Fletcher couldnt play for Man U til he left school and he wanted to get A-levels.. so Fergie had to keep him out of the team, but now we have an intelligent rounded player.
Danbert.. Fergie won a european trophy with a team of average scottish players...
Fergie won and stayed at the top for the 70's 80's, 90's, 00s, 10's.. 5 decades.. no other manager has touched him.. Cloughie was relegated pissed for the last decade..
Danbert you'll love this:
"St. Mirren have the distinction of being the only club ever to sack Ferguson. He claimed wrongful dismissal against the club at an industrial tribunal but lost and was given no leave to appeal. According to a Billy Adams Sunday Herald article on 30 May 1999, the official version is that Ferguson was sacked for various breaches of contract including unauthorised payments to players.[27] He was counter-accused of intimidating behaviour towards his office secretary because he wanted players to get some expenses tax free. He didn't speak to her for six weeks, confiscated her keys and communicated only through a 17-year-old assistant. The tribunal concluded that Ferguson was "particularly petty" and "immature".[29] It was claimed during the tribunal by St. Mirren chairman, Willie Todd, that Ferguson had "no managerial ability"."
Last edited by IainR; 10-12-2013 at 08:43 PM.
Have you heard of Bob Paisley mate? He didn't have Ferguson's longevity but 6 League Championships, 3 European Cups, 1 UEFA Cup and 3 League Cups in 9 years isn't bad (and that was in the days when winning the League Cup meant something).
As for Fergie's European trophy win with Aberdeen, the Cup Winners Cup was by far the easiest European trophy to win, most seasons you only had to beat a couple of decent teams to win it
Get in!! I had faith in you, Danbert.Let's be honest Iain - Bacon's succession is going the way of King Lear. It's only a matter of time until he's found wondering about naked in a storm, probably in Newton Heath, accompanied by Phil Neville in a jester's outfit.
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