only on this forum could you see the discussion as to whether a fall was measured on the ground or as a vertical distance. someone came up with a number that they thought was plausible. erm - that's it.

numbers aside, that's a bloody long way to fall.

fingers crossed for a full and speedy recovery, and well done Andy.

sobering.

my first Borrowdale and i loved it. clear goals for next year now too: get rather closer to 4 hours for Borrowdale and 3P which both took me the same time.