Grid reference 125 452. About 100m west of the 12 Apostles stone circle.
If you locate the start of the paved footway heading west, the obstructive stones are scattered over the first part of the old path running parallel (on the northern side).
Grid reference 125 452. About 100m west of the 12 Apostles stone circle.
If you locate the start of the paved footway heading west, the obstructive stones are scattered over the first part of the old path running parallel (on the northern side).
Last edited by Ilkley Swimmer; 14-09-2014 at 07:02 PM.
ThanksOriginally Posted by Ilkley Swimmer
Poacher turned game-keeper
Descended the stone path from SE side of Red Pike, Buttermere yesterday. http://streetmap.co.uk/map.srf?X=317...5745&A=Y&Z=120 A long ordeal for everybody on it.
Was up on Foel Fras yesterday. They seem to be building a stone path between Foel Fras and Drum. It's one of the quietest mountains in Snowdonia and seems a little excessive to put flagstones over the top.
We had a walk round the three peaks yesterday. I'm guessing but 50%+ of it is now on built pathes or hard track. We spoke to a couple taking numbers of walkers for NP authorities. They said we were around no 350 for the day. In June they counted 1,700 on a sunny Saturday
Poacher turned game-keeper
there was at least 1000 on the Ben on Saturday...and this is a quieter time for nat 3 peakers
Now that me and Hester live about 50 yards from the Golden Lion, we can hear the 3 peakers all setting off on a Saturday morning with most going between 6am and 8am. The really big events tend to go off in May, June and early July with a bit of a lull over the summer holidays with them now picking up again in September. 1700 sounds like a day with two or three big charity walks which is relatively rare.
Despite my initial scepticism about all the pathing on the 3 peaks route with those sort of numbers of walkers, it all makes sense. I tend to avoid all the pathing going up and down Pen y Ghent by going up via Bracken Bottom and following my own line to Long Mires and, funnily enough, when I got to the stile there last time I ran round, there were two chaps (maybe wardens?) who told me that I'd "gone the wrong way" through the bogs and can take the better path nowadays..... to which I suitably harumphed.
I'm shocked at the scale of these "adventures". They are many times the scale I'd imagined. In fairness there was very litter around on Saturday and we were late finishing. What is shocking is the amount of banana skins on the route! Wasdale "in season" is a horrible place. The amount of overflowing skips and bins is shocking
I went to Yosemite in the late 90's and the culture there is to encourage folk to carry out what they carry in. Signs saying there are no bins in the valley as Three Peakers approached Wasdale would surely be better than all the crap (in some cases literally) left behind
IanDP, I know you're involved in a professional sense; what are your thoughts please on managing these numbers of (often inexperienced) people visiting the countryside?
Last edited by Derby Tup; 22-09-2014 at 10:21 AM.
Poacher turned game-keeper
Hate them which is why I rarely do them any more or to be more exact price my self out of the market. Although some still want to pay me.
I avoid doing the huge groups any more only small groups. NON of my groups drop any litter in fact we encourage litter picking which we take off them this tends to be bottles rather than any thing else.
It's the big groups that walk independently that cause the most mess as there is no real education.
Instructor/MLTA regularly organise litter picks on the Nat PPP. Talking to park wardens they consider the route honeypots/traps..it keeps all the charity walkers together rather than have them walking over other less visited hill dropping rubbish.
I've been active in encouraging wild trips for small groups which is much more adventurous and sustainable but is of course less marketable to the charities.
we had 20 Clients on the Ben with two other guides...one who is another forumite from years gone passed.
I think they all flew to Glasgow from Various points, it's great they contribute to charities and get on the hill but the carbon foot print is massive
I remember a good example of erosion prevention in one of the races starting at Errwood Reservoir nr Buxton (Shining Tor?). After reaching the trig you bear left and gon downhill where the path is held together by (I think) a combination of mesh and another 'springy' material. I didn't detract from the appearance of the local area and was pretty forgiving on your legs.
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