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    I hope this isn't going to degenerate into...

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    ...any sort of puerile activities to up our post count.

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    I would expect triamcinolone - or any other strong steroid - to cut down muscle and tendon inflammation, and therefore reduce or eliminate any aches and pains from recent hard training sessions - would this improve performance? I don't know, but I have no doubt some people out there do. It is supposedly a catabolic anti inflammatory steroid, rather than an anabolic steroid, so, unlike testosterone, one would not expect muscle building effects - but why are they using it rather than for example prednisolone, the traditional steroid used when asthma symptoms are not responding to the usual mix of inhalers? Does triamcinolone in fact have an anabolic effect, in addition to its anti inflammatory effect. Any clinical pharmacologists or sports scientists out there?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mike T View Post
    I would expect triamcinolone - or any other strong steroid - to cut down muscle and tendon inflammation, and therefore reduce or eliminate any aches and pains from recent hard training sessions - would this improve performance? I don't know, but I have no doubt some people out there do. It is supposedly a catabolic anti inflammatory steroid, rather than an anabolic steroid, so, unlike testosterone, one would not expect muscle building effects - but why are they using it rather than for example prednisolone, the traditional steroid used when asthma symptoms are not responding to the usual mix of inhalers? Does triamcinolone in fact have an anabolic effect, in addition to its anti inflammatory effect. Any clinical pharmacologists or sports scientists out there?

    David Millar wrote that it was the most potent drug he took. He lost one to two kilos in a week and felt extremely strong. It seems that Rasmussen agrees with Millar: http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode...night-23092016

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    Quote Originally Posted by CL View Post
    David Millar wrote that it was the most potent drug he took. He lost one to two kilos in a week and felt extremely strong. It seems that Rasmussen agrees with Millar: www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/b07wgh4v/newsnight-23092016
    As a somewhat "rotund" asthmatic, it sounds just the ticket for me!

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    Quote Originally Posted by CL View Post
    David Millar wrote that it was the most potent drug he took. He lost one to two kilos in a week and felt extremely strong. It seems that Rasmussen agrees with Millar: www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/b07wgh4v/newsnight-23092016
    After today's Andrew Marr Show I doubt if Millar and Wiggins will exchange Xmas cards...but I'm sure Wiggins will be sending one to Mr Marr forever.

    On a historical note, in 1988 Pedro Delgado was a shoe-in for Le Tour when in late July a few days before Paris he was found to have taken Probenecid (which is a masking agent). Probenecid had been an illegal drug according to the IOC (Olympics) for a year but the UCI (Cycling) was a bit slow and were due to ban it a few weeks later in August, which they duly did.

    Delgado was pretty cool about it all: "it's use is not illegal" and indeed that week, as distinct from a couple of weeks later, it wasn't (outside the Olympics).

    Delgado won his Tour. His only win; but as Wiggins knows, one Tour win means never having to work again.

    In cycling "it's use is not illegal" actually translates as something else.

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    As an asthmatic seemingly I get the edge over the field but it always amazes me how senior vets generate speed and tenacity from the off especially when there is a hill at the line.A club mate seems to think there is a catapult secreted away for the vey purpose.So we know that these mountain goats are clean(from a drug viewpoint)what about a doping tent at the trig point

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