Yes it was bitterly cold on the Kinder edge into the wind.
Agree on the best route option up to Kinder. How simple it looks on a map!
When I got to Withins I say a few people running parallel to the east of it. Fools I though,it is easier in the the grough, far from it. It is really only the last couple of hundred metres, where it gets wider that it gets to be good running in it.