Brexit

[DrPatrickBarry]

(whatever it was)

May is seceretly working with Merkel to ensure that Brexit is very short term, and the UK will be back in pretty quickly.

[noel]

May is seceretly working with Merkel to ensure that Brexit is very short term, and the UK will be back in pretty quickly.

Ha ha!
WP, you need to go on a short course on media studies.
Did the idea that this information would only be known by an anti-Europe lobby group not seem strange to you?

[Derby Tup]

It can’t be true - it’s not been on the front page of the Mail yet

[DrPatrickBarry]

What I love is the fact that the person on twitter took screen shots of the article (before its removal). There is so little trust nowadays.

[Witton Park]

Ha ha!
WP, you need to go on a short course on media studies.
Did the idea that this information would only be known by an anti-Europe lobby group not seem strange to you?

I don't know Noel. A lot of credence seems to be given to pro EU lobby groups, even groups and individuals reliant on the EU for a source of income.

Do you not think Chequers was odd?

I tend not to take on board such stuff from either side unless I can dissect it, check it's voracity. But what this does is support my suspicions at the time of Chequers.

I suppose we'll find out in due course.

[noel]

There have been a few news articles on this subject recently. Apparently we are more likely to believe fake news if it's something we'd like to believe.

[Oracle]

Companies really actually doing a “project fear”:

Sony, Ford, Honda, Panasonic, Unilever, Barclays, Diageo, HSBC, Bank of America, Nissan, Schaeffler, Airbus, Dyson, Philips, UBS, Hitachi, Jaguar Land Rover, BMW and Toyota....

And I’m sure more to come ��

"I will list all the companies I think are leaving and blame it all on brexit".
Trouble is that some of the companies listed are certainly not leaving because of brexit. The car industry is in serious trouble: Honda in particular. Even car plants in europe are closing and/or moving to turkey. Some are retrenching to japan now they can. So correlation is not cause.

Dyson is certainly not leaving because of brexit. So consider other causes. I can tell you for certainty some companies are leaving because of the prospect of Corbyn and Mcdonnels threat to steal part of the company and replace their boards with agitators. All companies will have a strategy to deal with the threat, they just wont want to upset the customers by saying so. Companies outside britain have international treaties that protect them from expropriation to allow safe investment here. Corbyns clear threat to return to the car industries to the 70s will certainly be weighing in on decisions. So blame it all on brexit, is more of project fear.

What trumps that is economic gravity. For as long as we import a lot more than we export, the net migration if there is any will be towards Britain in the form of company moves, expanded business and startups. Thats why we are still growing europe is not. Sure there will closures, but it is not the whole story.

I cannot understand why any vote for EU, considering the history of intransigence and ideologyto the point of self harm, deliberately prolonging uncertainty now harming them and us. It is why some of us want to leave. Hopelessly undermined by remainers. Now for project certainty. The impending collapse of the Euro. I cannot understand why any socialist can vote for the mass economic hardship the euro has clearly caused.

[Derby Tup]

You’re good at this Oracle. Where do you stand on the really key issue of our time ie folks using GPS watch things when racing?

[Oracle]

You’re good at this Oracle. Where do you stand on the really key issue of our time ie folks using GPS watch things when racing?

Nope. I will stick to brexit. Running with GPSsss is far too controversial for me!
I don't dare get into that argument
Suffice to say my first was a mgellan jammed into bumbag, remember them??. I Bust it in a slip on little stand at duddon. On the rare occasions it managed to get a sat fix at all, it took ages to get one!

There is no answer to suit everyone.
Those outside the lakes will say "they equalize the advantage locals have". Good map navigators who want to maximise advantage say "GPS is unethical". Some folk will say "it makes it safer" others say "until they break! so what then if you rely on them?". Many will say its about the running, and GPS cant help your legs anyway. It amazes me how it got the community into an argument meltdown.I will stick to brexit. I prefer black and white. ;-)

[noel]

Now for project certainty. The impending collapse of the Euro. I cannot understand why any socialist can vote for the mass economic hardship the euro has clearly caused.

Again with the opinions as facts. Many people (including many in Southern Europe) see the long-term economic benefits the EU and the Euro has brought, and that this has disproportionately benefited those in the poorest areas.