The backstop is far worse than that.
First as destroying our negotiating position. "first give up your fishing rights before we can talk"...The first in a lot of one sided demands before we can do deals elsewhere.
Second as a deliberate act by the EU to foment civil unrest whichever happens.
The militia in ireland on opposite sides will not wear brussels position.One or other will come out of hiding. The unionists will not allow Northern ireland to be annexed by the south as it has, the republicans (including those north of the border) will not allow varadkar to build his wall across what they see as their country. Far from ensuring peace EU stupidity ensures civil unrest.
The only way is a technological invisible border, and would result in the stupidity of the EU checking goods from ireland reaching EU. It is that outcome varadkar wants to avoid. But the backstop would be worse by far.
Remainers need to recognise. This is not intended as a deal. It is intended as humiliation. It is why Selmayr, Weyand and the rest gloated about it. May should never have signed it. We must no deal for national self respect.
Last edited by Oracle; 11-03-2019 at 07:33 PM.
I'm not sure how to put it any clearer.
I think you were asking me if the interests of the people were necessarily different from big business. My answer is yes. Big Business has an interest in lobbying the EU to get all the regulations they want. That's not the interest of the rest of the population. They have quite different priorities be they leavers or remainers.
I may be wrong, I often am, but wasn't the EU limit on vaccuum cleaners to 1600 watts and I don't think any Dyson had/has motors bigger than that. But I do take your point and I don't think limiting vacuum cleaners or kettles for that matter will have any real impact on energy consumption. And don't get me started on LED lamps, unreliable pieces of .... that they are.
Not long now.
Leave the weak behind and fight for our country.
They often don't coincide, they often conflict. As I've already said large multi-nationals are able to rig the system in their favour by lobbying Brussels to get complex regulations, which penalsie smaller firms that don't have large compliance departments. This provides a barrier to entry. Without it smaller firms could compete better and consumers might well get lower prices and better services through increased competition.
Plus don't forget the overwhelming number of businesses in this country (who employ the large majority of people) don't export to the EU. Yet they are still subject to EU Single Market regulation.
I’d totally agree with you I if you were talking about the US; big business and lobby groups have totally bought the system over there. The EU competition commission though has had a pretty good record of taking big business on though hasn’t it? Google, Amazon, Facebook, MacDonalds and Starbucks being a few names that spring to mind.
Big business is super important because of the number of employees they employ, sub-contractors they contract and wealth they create. Yes they can also exploit opportunities given a free hand but like I said the EU have a pretty good record of taking these on. Funnily enough it’s individual companies setting up in individual low tax countries and trying to put a large chunk of their profits disproportionately through that particular tax haven that have especially been taken to task by the EU. Luxembourg and Ireland have both got into trouble over this with the EU
They often DO coincide. There are millions of people working for corporations that do extensive trade with the EU, they most definitly have an interest in the success of those "large corporations". There are countless numbers of people reliant on EU medicines that are produced by "large coroprations" and approved by the European Medicines Agency who are unsure if they will still be able to recieve their vital supplies in two weeks time.
Last edited by DrPatrickBarry; 12-03-2019 at 09:16 AM.
Stolly not to mention Microsoft and Apple.
There was a brilliant win for Supermac’s, a little Irish fast food chain, in the European Union Intellectual Property Office (EUIPO) a couple of weeks ago in a david vs goliath battle against MacDonalds.
If fact one of most successfull and visible EU success is the micro USB adaptors (EU common external power supply (2009 Common EPS Memorandum of Understanding))on mobile devices. I must admit I don't understand how Apple have managed to avoid that.
Last edited by DrPatrickBarry; 12-03-2019 at 09:25 AM.