Quote Originally Posted by DangerMouse View Post
But that isn't going to work is it, we need some kind of trade agreement, otherwise we will have a very serious food shortage problem within just a few hours and at most a couple of days, of the borders being closed to hauliers.

Our food supply network is based on Just-in-Time (JIT) deliveries, even a minor disruption will cause chaos, see the effects of the petrol prices strike action September 2000.

The same applies to pharmaceuticals.

I hope I don't sound over-dramatic, this is a very real possibility and I believe there are already some effects being noticed in the pharmaceuticals delivery networks.

“A ‘no-deal’ Brexit would mean the biggest disintegration of the complex regulated medicines market in Europe in terms of regulation, cross border movement of goods, comparative pricing, and intellectual property,”

Read the full article fr details on how it is already affecting the UKs position in terms of drugs, trials and regulation on medical care:

https://www.the-scientist.com/news-o...-brexit--64926
Does this come cross less offensive? Just wondering for future reference.

I'm sorry DM, but this is an inaccurate analysis of the situation.

I can't remember a post on my fairly long time on this forum that has seemed to represent as many worst case scenarios as the reality should we leave to WTO terms.

It might be economically more beneficial to have some sort of trade agreement, but that is a matter of opinion.
I can certainly give you some benefits of not having one.

Food shortages within a few hours! Why? We control what comes in. The Government has already issued information to say they will not be holding up goods coming in to the UK.

Borders being closed to hauliers! I haven't heard that one before. I would be grateful for your source please so I can analyse and check it's veracity.

Even a minor disruption will cause chaos? I ship goods to the EU and I can tell you that 24 hour delays are almost a weekly occurrence. I get daily bulletins from the couriers and hauliers I work with. If someone sneezes on the M6 I know about it
Weather events, strikes, ferry breakdown, Train stuck in tunnel, immigrants walking through tunnel... I have had the full range this year.

The same applies to pharmaceutical? I would just re-confirm what the UK Government has said on the matter.

No you don't sound over-dramatic, you sound as if you have only been receiving information of the worst negative potential consequences without being made aware of the control measures and policies the UK Government and business are putting in place to avoid the more extreme consequences.

Do you really think a UK Government of any persuasion would see a potential problem and not act to lessen or remove the effect?
They might not be very good at it, but that is a different topic.

In my own mitigation, if you read your own post "we will have a very serious food shortage problem within just a few hours and at most a couple of days, of the borders being closed to hauliers." is offensive to me.
If you genuinely think that, I have tried countless times to explain why this won't happen as have many others on and off the forum.

Had you posted "we may have some disruption to food supply. The Government has advised we shouldn't as they will take measures to smooth the passage across the border, but I have yet to be convinced in their ability to aid the continuity of the supply chain."
Then I probably wouldn't have even replied, as it's somewhere close to the reality.