Brexit

[Muddy Retriever]

The key word is "acceptable". Remember it was the ERG et al who cost Teresa the deal. The deal that met all the UK government's red lines.

But that was the problem, it didn't meet the red lines. They kept being breached e.g. Customs Union. The backstop meant we would need the EU's permission to leave it.

I genuinely don't know what you mean here. By "put that to the test", do you mean have a second referendum asking people if they support a no-deal? I can't think that's what you mean, as I suspect you'd be worried the first referendum would be overturned.

I was demonstrating the hypocrisy of some Remain politicians. The reason they say that we can't leave without a deal was because it wasn't on the ballot paper. So they argue for a second referendum but then won't allow "no-deal" to be an option. So how would people chose it? Clearly it's not the lack of a democratic mandate that concerns them about "no-deal".

You know that's not the reason they blocked it though don't you?

Re the general election, I presume you mean they wanted to prevent a no-deal exit and ensure an extension was requested instead. But the election date was going to be on 14th October. So if they're so confident than have a general election and Labour or possibly a Labour plus others coalition would win. Then they could ask for an extension from the EU themselves. They're obviously scared that they'll lose. To be honest I'm not even sure the opposition parties will agree to an election after November 1st if the polls are still as they are at the moment.

So, we've had three or four people on here say, in response to my assertion that some people who voted to leave didn't want a no-deal, that they would still have voted the same way. And I think the implication is that "because I didn't, I know others didn't too". However, brexit is a broad church. I know people who have said they wouldn't support a no-deal even though they voted to leave. Indeed, I also know people who said, if they had their time again, they'd vote to remain. There's also a YouGov opinion poll: https://d25d2506sfb94s.cloudfront.ne...Trackers_w.pdf
that includes slightly more leavers than remainers (based on the referendum) and 49% say the UK was wrong to vote to leave, vs 40% saying the UK was right to vote to leave. What do you brexiteers make of this?

That's just one poll but it doesn't surprise me given the last three years that people wish the whole thing hadn't happened. But if you're asking whether we should actually leave given that this was the verdict of the referendum I suspect many remainers would say yes we should because they recognise that this is how a democracy works.