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    The problem with the incessant remainer lies, is that they had the entire communications channels of government, aided by a partisan media and civil service to promote them which would cost a fabulous of money to duplicate.

    Leave were always massively disadvantaged. Yet we notice it was leave that was challenged on campaign spending by an equally partisan electoral commission!

    One day politicians will wise up. The element of truth in some of the remainer claims was so wildly exaggerated, that people disbelieved the claim completely.
    If remain had been HONEST, they would have got more traction, perhaps enough to win. Remain was pathogenically dishonest and still is.


    Yet all the leavers claims have one by one become true.

    Our spending to EU is rapidly increasing, so whether or not the leave bus claim was 50 percent overstated, it is getting closer by the day - not least because our economy is doing better than theirs! so we end up paying more! So much for the cliff edge if we vote leave!

    Our sovereignty is ebbing away in power grabs to brussels, and in total violation of Lisbon treaty on "subsidiarity", the EU army derided at the time as a "leave lie" has now been proven entirely true.

    The EUs own information channels declare that 10 billion has been fraudulently wasted last year, so we can assume the real number is much higher(since EU has never been independently audited or honest, and sacks all whistleblowers) It is at least double that. So 2 bn of our 10 bn is going into EU fraud and dodgy deals. With no auditing the EU pigs have snouts firmly in the trough. And so on....

    The gravy train from strasbourg to brussels still pours money down the toilet every day. The MEPs are treated like FIFA officials.The EU has the same morality as FIFA The amount of unnacounted expenses and chauffeur cars is a disgrace to those who pay for it.. They dont even pay proper tax. There is a special "EU tax rate" for all the EU pigs that have the snouts firmly in the EU trough.


    There is still no way I can either amend or get amended legislation, or even sack those who decide legislation. There is no democracy whatsoever. The EU parliament is a sham. The only competence it had, to elect the next Juncker, was taken away this time!

    The "turmoil" accompanying no deal was roundly disputed by none other than the man who runs calais docks! He says there will be teething troubles, but soon be back to normal. He is french, so not a leaver!

    Then stollies claim, we need to be in the EU to trade with it. All the trade agreements with other countries prove we dont. The trade with EU by countries that dont have a trade deal, carry on regardless

    The currency union is even closer to collapse than it was at the time we voted, and the devastation it has caused, is just as visible in youth employement and economic migration..


    So leave got it spot on. Remainer claims have been disproven

    The negative economic impact so far, is entirely remainers refusing to accept the vote, so sabotaging the way forward. We have left one bank of a river, remainer MPs refuse to go to the other side, or return.

    Yet still remain, peddle the lies


    Quote Originally Posted by Muddy Retriever View Post
    Yes, the claim that just by voting to leave unemployment would increase by 500,000 to 800,000 was truly shocking and subsequently proven to be completely wrong.
    Last edited by Oracle; 21-10-2019 at 12:40 PM.

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