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  1. #2371
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    no fix the EU would accept
    because none exists.
    You can't accept something that isn't real.

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    you seem incapable
    you last rant was pretty unhinged. Get a bit of sleep.

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    Another selective edit of yours.
    I said “you are incapable of discussion WITHOUT INSULTS “ which like every other material point I made is evidently true.

    Even juncker laughs at the impotence of the EU parliament much to the annoyance of Verhofstadt,
    It is only there as a shamocracy for EU PR.

    I leave you with junckers thoughts on democracy and sovereignty

    On sovereignty:
    “Of course there will be transfer of sovereignty. But would I be intelligent to draw the attention of public opinion to this fact?”
    On democracy:
    “If it’s a yes on we go, if it’s a no we continue”
    On communication / propaganda:
    “When it gets serious we lie”

    Etc
    Perhaps you would like to refute Mr juncker


    What apology do you have for the millions of young people, victims of EU ideology and the Euro, left with no hope? Do you have no reservations on what EU has become?

    Quote Originally Posted by Dave_Mole View Post
    you're the one who wanted someone to refute your points.
    Someone did and you can't handle it.
    Again.
    Last edited by Oracle; 25-10-2019 at 11:19 AM.

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    Guys. Gals.

    I don’t know whether people know why I argue. It is not for kicks.
    Life is too short
    But I don’t know whether remainers are aware of how EU is destroying lives and what they are supporting.

    It is summed up in select committee testimony in the papers today, not about brexit but about universal credit.

    A young Portuguese lady had come to the uk, leaving her son and mother, in order to send back money.
    She says she cannot say no to sending money even to other family members too “ when their fridges are empty and they have nothing to eat”

    Her universal credit was stopped and she was forced she says into prostitution. That got the attention of a select committee,

    But this isn’t about the rights and wrongs of UC or even whether we pay it to foreign nationals, It is about the desperation that causes families to split. A mother to be forced to leave a son because of EU hardship. Why was she forced to come here to begin with? It is desperate for a mother to have to leave her son.

    It is about how Portugal is forced into penury, with no control over either exchange rate ( which was pushed far too high by Brussels on entering the euro) or interest rate, and is barred from economic stimulus by EU forcing budget balance, so it is doomed. A zombie state.

    Free movement of people sounds good. Until you see the desperation of poverty that causes the imbalance, That is the reality of the dysfunction of the EU I hate. Monetary union needs fiscal union to work. Eg winners like Germany helping to pay losers In Portugal. But the system says. “Nein”.


    It is the story I hear taking to locals. Entire generations forced into misery by Brussels,
    It causes UK just as many problems with accommodation,

    We have to stop this madness, free movement imbalance is symptom of a macroeconomic disaster, the lady referred above, just a sacrificed pawn in Brussels ideology,

    The reason I raise Southern Italy is some of my ex tenants came from there. Their stories are awful, to dave mole they are just dismissed as a problem statistic. But their lives are very real.

    The ECB has run out of fire power to avoid stagnation now, and the EU arrogance in picking fights with all its partners will make the losers situations even worse,

    I am all for cultural mixing, but not mass economic migration caused by a despotic EU
    That is why I care, does Dave Mole?
    I am not getting at you Dave, but do you really know how bad it is?
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    Go Dave Mole. Glad to see someone taking on these bigoted Brexiteers! Trouble is you are just banging your head against a brick wall. They have ears, but do not listen - and they obviously have too much time on their hands. Oracle is obviously against paying tax in the UK.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MattPo View Post
    Go Dave Mole. Glad to see someone taking on these bigoted Brexiteers! Trouble is you are just banging your head against a brick wall. They have ears, but do not listen - and they obviously have too much time on their hands. Oracle is obviously against paying tax in the UK.
    Now read what I just said. The misery EU causes, it really doesn’t care.
    And in the last couple of years we have paid 6 figures in tax to the UK. What about you? If you want real tax dodgers ask MPs . Their pensions take out more than they will ever pay in tax by a very large margin. They contibute not a penny.

    Do you not care about poverty forced by Brussels?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Oracle View Post
    And in the last couple of years we have paid 6 figures in tax to the UK. What about you? If you want real tax dodgers ask MPs . Their pensions take out more than they will ever pay in tax by a very large margin.
    Why does your tax contributions link to MPs? And what is the connection to your overall point?

    Witton Park makes insightful points on why he supports Brexit, your posts just appear to be rants with thinly veiled xenophobia.

    As previous contributors have said talk fell running not politics!

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    @ Witton Park - I have read through the sources you posted and I can see what has contributed to your opinion.

    It has not changed my mind but I understand your point of view

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    which like every other material point I made is evidently true



    You're having a laugh, aren't you?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dave_Mole View Post
    which like every other material point I made is evidently true



    You're having a laugh, aren't you?
    There is nothing funny about poverty, particularly that directly caused by the ideology of a despotic state, creating yet another currency union that like all previous ones is guaranteed to fail, for all the same reasons.

    It was on that issue I entered the Brexit debate, and you have never challenged it one iota

    Do you not care about anyone but Dave Mole?

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