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Meanwhile I look down the list of nhs worker deaths and see many over 60, some 70 even 80.
I look forward to seeing a stat that puts them massively at greater risk.
At present there is scant evidence.
If the risk to working age is only a quarter , the numbers still aren’t huge.
The BAME link is certainly concerning.

The reality is Boris followed medical advice. The fact that doctors cannot agree and some of the medical predictions were ludicrous does not give all doctors license for hindsight they all now presume. Get your own house in order.

As for ppe , I know the guy fighting a daily battle to procure it ever since FEBRUARY
Read that again, February, The fact you don’t know it is going on,does not give you right to criticise. Those doing the job are seriously p!ssed off with ill informed criticism like yours.

And as for globalisation, that is where all our PPE comes from, including places we would not nor,ally want to trade with. Thank goodness we don’t rely on EU.

Europe let us down,France cancelled our biggest order despite we were their best customer, and despite being first in the queue!! it is a free for all . So take the EU rose tinted glasses off. EU is demonstrably useless. Ask the Italians.

I also hear all this cr@p about testing. The reality is unvalidated tests are worse than none at all. The best are only 80 percent.

These drugs and products you take for granted take a long time and money to validate. The reason people think you can catch it again, for the present could easily be a false positive first time round. Also where do you get a validated population? Since it can be assymptomatic, you cannot have confidence in the test set, you cannot have confidence in a test.

And if the test is only 70 percent, it is little use for control.
Belgium tests per capita same as Germany. How did it help them?

Everything is easy for those who don’t have to do it.
How I hate these armchair critics.
We should have had PPE in storage, and should be making our own. Many small companies are trying to help, but are meeting a brick wall. Events have shown that relying on Globalisation is a mistake.
The standard answers that are given at the daily meetings are based on 1/ This is unprecedented and 2/ We are trying really hard. Both are true - that does not mean errors were not made. As to following scientific advice - there is usually a spectrum of possible responses, and the initial responses were at times pathetic - please don't go to the pub/cafes/restaurants - WTF!
I could go on, but I can see we will never agree.