Coronavirus

[Mike T]

Again, from the ONS, for women:

"Among women, only one of the nine major occupational groups had a statistically significantly higher mortality rate for deaths involving the coronavirus (COVID-19) than the rate of death involving COVID-19 among women of the same age in the general population: Caring, leisure and other service occupations had a rate of 7.5 deaths per 100,000 females, equivalent to 130 deaths.

As with men, most of these deaths (88 deaths) were among caring personal occupations, where the rate of female deaths involving COVID-19 was 10.1 deaths per 100,000 females. These deaths were largely from female care workers and home care workers (12.7 deaths per 100,000 females, or 66 deaths)."

[Mike T]

Which seems a bit odd, given that it would be hard to imagine a more socially distanced activity than fishing.


Sturgeon? Carping?

This thread appears to have been hijacked by the fishing activists.

On the list of pastimes, fishing is actually quite dangerous - nothing to do with Covid of course - not sure if it is the time people spend doing it - hours at a time, or the vicinity of water and power lines, the alcohol they may consume, or what.

[Muddy Retriever]

a complete dog's breakfast.

I note Sturgeon has asked that the UK Govt advise is not broadcast in Scotland.

I personally think her behaviour appalling. She's given a seat at key meetings, briefed by the lead experts, and then runs off and sets up a press conference to get the info out before the PM.

Now she's going her own way.

If only we could block her being broadcast down here as I've had a gutful of switching Sky or BBC on and seeing here little head bobbing about talking bollocks.

I suspect she secretly wishes that Scotland didn't have the right to set its own course with regard to Covid-19. Just imagine the opportunities for wallowing in victimhood if it was all determined by the UK Government. Sturgeon could lament that Scotland was being dragged out of lockdown against its will.

[molehill]

People will also be free to sit in parks, and be able to "play sports" with people from the same household.

So golf alone or with mi misses. 🏌️*♀️💑

Lucky you aren't a member of llanymynech golf club, apparently they have 15 holes in Wales and 3 in England

[Oracle]

On the list of pastimes, fishing is actually quite dangerous - nothing to do with Covid of course - not sure if it is the time people spend doing it - hours at a time, or the vicinity of water and power lines, the alcohol they may consume, or what.

I’m guessing cycling is far higher up on the list of “ could put you in A and E “ So it seems to me some exclusions are arbitrary. Which comparison list are you using?

[Oracle]

Lucky you aren't a member of llanymynech golf club, apparently they have 15 holes in Wales and 3 in England

There is a clothes shop straddling the Belgium Dutch border.
Different lock down rules apply in different areas of the shop!

[Witton Park]

I suspect she secretly wishes that Scotland didn't have the right to set its own course with regard to Covid-19. Just imagine the opportunities for wallowing in victimhood if it was all determined by the UK Government. Sturgeon could lament that Scotland was being dragged out of lockdown against its will.

With my cynical political head on, I can quite see how Sturgeon might milk this for all it's worth. Scotland already has a huge structural deficit and it will be piling up now faster than ever and longer than the rest of the UK if she does delay things longer.

But who pays for it?

[Mike T]

I’m guessing cycling is far higher up on the list of “ could put you in A and E “ So it seems to me some exclusions are arbitrary. Which comparison list are you using?

I can just remember it coming close to the top of a list of dangerous pastimes that included for example rock climbing, in the context of "should people undertaking dangerous activities pay for their own rescue/hospital care".

[Oracle]

I can just remember it coming close to the top of a list of dangerous pastimes that included for example rock climbing, in the context of "should people undertaking dangerous activities pay for their own rescue/hospital care".

Of course definitions and context matter.
Fatalities vs injuries.
Number of visits to A and E , per unit population, or per unit participant.

BASE jumping is clearly dangerous per participant, but the average A and E are unlikely to have picked up the pieces , because so few do it.

In fatalities I saw stats that said, cycling, swimming, and even running are up there ( presumably because of cardiac events , with cycling more likely from collision). Apparently triathlon swim is way up there ( per participant, many cardiac events happen at start of swim)


On injuries cheerleading , horse riding. rugby , football etc are up there. Basketball is high too.

Climbing ( except alex honnold imitators!) is low on all lists I see.

Fishing nowhere I have seen. But I agree with the risks. The eye taken out with a hook! But then I’ve seen golfers hit in the eye. Not good. On sheer numbers golfer hit with ball needing treatment is possibly higher?

On sheer numbers I would guess every A and E treats a cyclist more or less daily?
I’m guessing that has reduced lately because of low traffic.

So if what Boris is trying to do is keep unnecessary pressure off A and E and also avoid social mixing sports I wouldn’t have thought fishing made it on to the radar.

[Travs]

Fun and games on the facebook page over the easing of travel/exercise restrictions that were announced...

Funnily enough, over 100 messages generally arguing with each other, and nobody appeared to change their minds... what a waste of time... the government have issued their guidelines, so use them as you see fit, surely that will benefit us all a lot more than raising our blood pressures arguing...

For what it's worth, i'll likely be travelling to exercise in the (English) hills in the latter part of the week... alone, distant, and away from any 'closed' areas.