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    Quote Originally Posted by jackd View Post
    What you fail to mention, and is conveniently hidden behind the telegraph's paywall, is that the study was carried out in Australia.

    The researcher who conducted the study said it could not be used to make any recommendations on uk policy decisions, as the rates of infection between the two nations are not comparable.

    As for the rest of your rant, I refer you to my previous reply to you.
    Indeed, Victoria Derbyshire was giving someone a bit of grief about how the Australians were handling it. It occurred to me that the Aussies are operating in totally different climatic conditions.

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    Quote Originally Posted by wheezing donkey View Post
    Indeed, Victoria Derbyshire was giving someone a bit of grief about how the Australians were handling it. It occurred to me that the Aussies are operating in totally different climatic conditions.
    not that different if you're in Adelaide or Melbourne.

    It was presented as more evidence. I don't see anything wrong with that - it's exactly what it is.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Witton Park View Post
    not that different if you're in Adelaide or Melbourne.

    It was presented as more evidence. I don't see anything wrong with that - it's exactly what it is.
    The study does not apply to the uk. Its not because of the climate. Its because they have only had 99 deaths in total, and 15 new cases of infection today.

    What are we at now? 35000+ deaths? How many new cases today? More than 15 by a fair way.

    What they do in Australia can't really be applied here
    ...yet, as the researcher who carried out the study we are discussing, pointed out on the radio this morning.

    Its being used by the Telegraph and those of an anti teacher / public sector opinion to roll out the 'lazy skiver' and 'millitant unions' message. Its the Daily Mail with longer sentences.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jackd View Post
    The study does not apply to the uk. Its not because of the climate. Its because they have only had 99 deaths in total, and 15 new cases of infection today.

    What are we at now? 35000+ deaths? How many new cases today? More than 15 by a fair way.

    What they do in Australia can't really be applied here
    ...yet, as the researcher who carried out the study we are discussing, pointed out on the radio this morning.

    Its being used by the Telegraph and those of an anti teacher / public sector opinion to roll out the 'lazy skiver' and 'millitant unions' message. Its the Daily Mail with longer sentences.
    I have to completely disagree with you.

    Our team on the SAGE group will be looking at all evidence from other countries and working out if an how it might apply here and help them offer better advise to Government.

    It's not whether it can be applied here. It's whether any information could be useful, and evidence of infections in schools would be relevant from Australia, Singapore, Denmark...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Witton Park View Post
    I have to completely disagree with you.

    Our team on the SAGE group will be looking at all evidence from other countries and working out if an how it might apply here and help them offer better advise to Government.

    It's not whether it can be applied here. It's whether any information could be useful, and evidence of infections in schools would be relevant from Australia, Singapore, Denmark...
    Well, I happen to agree with you. I agree all evidence should be considered. My point is not about the study in and of itself, nor what it's conclusions are. It's the way it's been politicised by the tory press and the anti union / teacher brigade.

    I think I said it did not apply here yet. Of course it may be useful to help the planning, I don't dispute that. It's the Telegraph and others using it as a tool to bash the teachers & their unions that is my concern. Australia is in a very different situation to us and what applies there does not apply here at the moment. I'm not saying don't look to other countries (perhaps we should have sooner) I'm saying don't take these studies and their findings out of context. The researcher who led the study said something similar on the Today programme this morning.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jackd View Post
    It's the way it's been politicised by the tory press and the anti union / teacher brigade.
    Of course we never see anything politicised by the anti Tory press, or the pro-union, hard left teacher brigade.
    The National News Channels are expertly rolling out doctors, burses and teachers at the moment giving us an anti Govt policy stance, without telling us that they are largely political activists of a Corbynite bent.

    Anyway, how about this?
    "Children unlikely to transmit coronavirus, says study cited in PM's push to reopen schools"

    Luke Henriques-Gomes, 26 Apr 2020 in the Tory rag The Guardian
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    Quote Originally Posted by Witton Park View Post
    "Children unlikely to transmit coronavirus, says study cited in PM's push to reopen schools"

    Luke Henriques-Gomes, 26 Apr 2020 in the Tory rag The Guardian
    "The Guardian, over 3 weeks ago! Can we get back to school in double quick time?"
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    Its the Daily Mail with longer sentences.
    That's rather good. And I read the DT.

    I like the crossword.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Graham Breeze View Post
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