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    Particularly in Scotland. A third world education, now, I gather.

    At another level I saw it with my own eyes stagger.

    In the ten years from my graduation, to taking on many graduates and postgraduates in my own businesses,
    I think they had lost a full year, the 4 year science graduates knew roughly the same as their 3 year peers had done a decade before.

    Confirmed more recently by OH recruiting a hundred or more bio scientists taking phds where they used to take masters, masters where they took graduates, and employing graduates to do former technician jobs. All downhill.

    A variety of reasons:
    the reduction of traditional A level maths physics courses to Lukewarm technology courses; the reduction of rote learning in favour Of continuous assessment, the rebranding of excellent vocational higher national courses in the old polytechnics to become lukewarm stripped down degrees; A major one: The “ market. “ for matriculation boards favoured those with lower standards; Lots of bird courses like psychology taking over from good science basics.

    As an employer I found the claim that young people were better educated because of more A stars, a totally risible claim. They knew far less than their B and C peers from twenty years before. But they expected higher rewards!

    One reason Germany has succeeded is it still values good vocational engineering qualifications, done along side work, and values those who have them, as do I. Far more take employment and vocational qualifications there.

    Where the U.K. seems to think , I think wrongly as an employer , that lukewarm degrees are better .

    It has been a slippery slope for 40 years.

    Stroking my long grey beard in a croaky voice.... the youngsters of today.....

    Quote Originally Posted by Stagger View Post
    Your partially right Oracle.

    I think the unions are trying to run it out to the school holidays.

    BUT

    The curriculum and lack of achievement in core subjects ruinings the education of some.

    To say a child can be in education from 4 to 17 and not achieving basic Maths and English is appalling.

    The schools should not be paid if the kids don't achieve the main 2 qualifications.
    Last edited by Oracle; 26-05-2020 at 10:48 PM.

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