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[Stagger]

So how may refugees live with you Gandhi?

[Stagger]

Words are free, actions speak louder.

[Fellbeast]

Hands up here, forget your views on the virus or refugees for a minute, but don’t you think Stagger is more than a little bit racist?

The trouble with this forum (I think), especially when discussing contentious issues, is that most forumites seem quite happy to put up with racist views (expressed fairly continuously you have to admit) so long as the person making the racist comments broadly supports their side of the argument. Surely it’s time to call out Stagger ffs!

[Stagger]

Can you please justify without having ever met me how you justify your reasoning?

You appear to want to bully people who don't share your thoughts and opinions.

[Stagger]

And how many people have you help?

You failed to answer that question.

[Dave_Mole]

You appear to want to bully people who don't share your thoughts and opinions.

They said that about me too. They might still think I am you....

[Fellbeast]

And how many people have you help?

You failed to answer that question.

Haha and how many refugees have you personally helped expel?

[Witton Park]

So this poem, kind of well known nowadays I guess so feel free to yawn disinterestly if you’ve heard it all before, is not just a about the two ways people look at refugees but is also pretty representative of the massive split in U.K. society right now:

Refugees

They have no need of our help
So do not tell me
These haggard faces could belong to you or me
Should life have dealt a different hand
We need to see them for who they really are
Chancers and scroungers
Layabouts and loungers
With bombs up their sleeves
Cut-throats and thieves
They are not
Welcome here
We should make them
Go back to where they came from
They cannot
Share our food
Share our homes
Share our countries
Instead let us
Build a wall to keep them out
It is not okay to say
These are people just like us
A place should only belong to those who are born there
Do not be so stupid to think that
The world can be looked at another way

(now read from bottom to top)

So are you a top downer? Or a bottom upper?

It’s no coincidence to me that most brexiteers and Tory voters (and you can probably throw in anti face mask wearers and coronavirus deniers) are top downers

It's a cleverly constructed poem, but it really is a trap. It's framed as you have put it yourself as "the two ways people look at refugees" and it is not the case at all.

Are you for or against?

It is not so simple and clever poem as it is, it only divides.

I'm for process and fairness.

[Witton Park]

It seems to be starting again. Pick off Oracle. now Stagger? Same characters as well.

[Stagger]

Haha and how many refugees have you personally helped expel?

None!!

But answering a question with a question is not polite.